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A decade later, we get Kudos Island, huzzah, :D! Acheron and Palingrad next year, then? Woo!

Looking forward to this. At least one quest (right?), plenty of exploration and hopefully some kind of archaeology minigame with cool rewards. I certainly am looking forward to this! :)

Just hope it doesn't suffer from the same mistakes as Menaphos; wanting too much, ending up watering down everything.
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21-May-2019 19:21:16

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Blackwing said:
LordáDrakan said:
Just hope it doesn't suffer from the same mistakes as Menaphos; wanting too much, ending up watering down everything.

That's my worry as well, because this feels like the kind of hyping that Jagex did for Menaphos, which turned out to be a beautiful city with a boring grind for gameplay. At the very least, I hope they scrapped the whole "we had to add a reputation system so that you wouldn't complete the whole content in just 1-2 days" mentality. :P

Kind of tentatively hoping for more collections though... Arc and Menaphos ones are fun, but: some of the birds/orokami/storm- & stoneberry seeds/gems/insects are too rare. It should be fun and not grindy. Requiring obscurely specific conditions is fine, but having to rely on pure luck or level 90+ stats is not.

Hoping for an extension of the kudos system to fill some more exhibits, too.
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21-May-2019 19:49:11

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Blackwing said:
LordáDrakan said:
Kind of tentatively hoping for more collections though... Arc and Menaphos ones are fun, but: some of the birds/orokami/storm- & stoneberry seeds/gems/insects are too rare. It should be fun and not grindy. Requiring obscurely specific conditions is fine, but having to rely on pure luck or level 90+ stats is not.

Ye, Arc collections felt more about exploration, which was fun, while Menaphos forced me to spend many hours using medium level training methods as a comped player, which was the opposite. :P

Well, insects (and gems) turned out not to be as bad as I had feared. Got the last six or seven insects within two hours. Suppose I was lucky with some; got both plover insects with three plovers.

But that last orokami...and that *damned* Pumpkin Limpkin. I really dislike Uncharted Isles, but that bird, may Zamorak eat it, just makes me loathe the Arc, even though it doesn't deserve that. :P
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21-May-2019 20:13:43

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Cinderlynn said:
LordáDrakan said:
A decade later, we get Kudos Island, huzzah, :D! Acheron and Palingrad next year, then? Woo!

Looking forward to this. At least one quest (right?), plenty of exploration and hopefully some kind of archaeology minigame with cool rewards. I certainly am looking forward to this! :)

Just hope it doesn't suffer from the same mistakes as Menaphos; wanting too much, ending up watering down everything.
get what you're saying but I'm hoping for Arponsandra next year!

Dear Guthix, has the gnome series been so neglected that even I forgot anout Arposandra? Ack. Though I'd be fine if it never became a big thing and just remained mainly a quest location. Same for Palingrad, really. But the rest of Acheron should be great. :D But let's start with Kudos for now. :P
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21-May-2019 20:31:20

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JonáStryder said:
Not sure what the origins of this screenshot is (perhaps UrekMazino can enlighten us), but copying it here for reference as it may be relevant to the conversation:

UrekMazino said:
Actually, the name has been revealed.


This seems queer. Kerapac somehow bringing fossils back to live without necromancy is plausible. Kerapac making the island appear just now is not, since we know it's been around forever. Hence the Varrock Museum's interest in it, and the canal barge's being constructed.

Kerapac being called the 'new antagonist' worries me, though. Previously, we had Lucien, after whose death the Dragonkin (specifically the Necrosyrtes) took over as the new antagonist. Then we heard absolutely nothing from them as Sliske came on stage. Now after Sliske's exit it's suddenly Kerapac. What happened to the Sakirth, Sithaph and Strisath? What have they done except torch Edgeville and bits of Mos Le'Harmless?

If it's accurate, though, it seems the island will require Desperate Times to access, making its expedition Sixth Age. Hmm. 100 kudos not mentioned. This can't be good.
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23-May-2019 19:00:58 - Last edited on 23-May-2019 19:02:29 by LordáDrakan

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Dilbert2001 said:
Logically it doesn't need Kudos to go to Anachronia because it is not Kudos Island and Jagex clearly expressed the content is for all players including new players. New players don't have kudos. :(

It can't not be Kudos Island since you see in the trailer it involves the barge, and it's talked about in the recent Digsite rework. If it isn't Kudos Island, why is Varrock even involved...

And, well, it can't be for new players if it requires Desparate Times, which has a whopping requirement of three level 50s, including a members' skill. Getting 100 kudos is a lot easier (natural history quiz + cleaning finds is 78 and then 5 novice quests).
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23-May-2019 19:55:56

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Dilbert2001 said:
LordáDrakan said:
Dilbert2001 said:
Logically it doesn't need Kudos to go to Anachronia because it is not Kudos Island and Jagex clearly expressed the content is for all players including new players. New players don't have kudos. :(

It can't not be Kudos Island since you see in the trailer it involves the barge, and it's talked about in the recent Digsite rework. If it isn't Kudos Island, why is Varrock even involved...

And, well, it can't be for new players if it requires Desparate Times, which has a whopping requirement of three level 50s, including a members' skill. Getting 100 kudos is a lot easier (natural history quiz + cleaning finds is 78 and then 5 novice quests).


Kudos Island was just what the players called it like when? At least 10+ years ago. I think Mod Mark probably had the idea of no longer made Kudos a requirements in 2012 when he changed its name to Fossil Island.

"Available for RuneScape members, the islandĺs ancient shores and deadly jungles
will be accessible to new, current and returning players alike
. Adventurers looking to follow the storyline over future updates require just three skills (Mining, Smithing, and Divination) to be level 50 or above, along with the completion of two quests: The Needle Skips and You Are It."


To me it sound like access to Anachronia is granted to new players (don't need kudos) but to follow the storyline further (quests, I believe) one will need level 50 in 3 skills.

If they completely retcon everything, they might as well not do it.

Since the barge is involved, though, I cannot imagine not having a Kudos requirement (100 is very very easy anyway), since the Varrock Museum only takes qualified archaeologists to the island, not just anyone. That's the entire premise...
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23-May-2019 21:46:48

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Okay, let me summarise it as succinctly as possible.

Kudos Island: large island with lots of fossils north of Morytania; has a Dragonkin connection; possibly has dinosaurs; Varrock Museum is building a barge to explore it, but several versions have failed; only qualified archaeologists who passed their exams and have 100 Kudos are allowed to come.

Land out of Time: large island north of Morytania; has a Dragonkin connection; possibly has dinosaurs; Varrock Museum is building a barge to explore it, but several versions have failed; Kerapac's headed there.

They cannot not be the same, having too much in common. It's like describing a crystal city inhabited by elves located west of mountain range and being divided into eight districts...and then referring to something completely new rather than Prifddinas.

Having established Kudos Island is, in fact, being released (another big hint is the massive Digsite update), it has to require 100 Kudos. Because the only reason to explore the island is pure archaeological interest. Sure, we may encounter Kerapac and continue that storyline, but a priori we don't even know he's there. All we know is he flew away in an easterly direction; from Piscatoris that could be almost anywhere, as we don't know where Orthen is. We, real people, now know it's Kudos Island, but in-game the player does not.

And we know from existing dialogue (which hasn't been removed with the Digsite update) that the museum only takes people with 100 Kudos to discover new things. Obviously; why would they take someone with too little or even no archaeological experience to an archaeological expedition? This isn't a world event or invasion or anything - it's just Digsite 2.0. And what we might find on the island, is another story. But we cannot know that in advance.

Accessibility isn't an argument either since 100 Kudos is a lot easier to earn (also we've had over a decade to do it) than it is to start and complete Desperate Times.
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25-May-2019 07:37:57

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Dilbert2001 said:
LordáDrakan said:
Okay, let me summarise it as succinctly as possible.

Kudos Island: large island with lots of fossils north of Morytania; has a Dragonkin connection; possibly has dinosaurs; Varrock Museum is building a barge to explore it, but several versions have failed; only qualified archaeologists who passed their exams and have 100 Kudos are allowed to come.

Land out of Time: large island north of Morytania; has a Dragonkin connection; possibly has dinosaurs; Varrock Museum is building a barge to explore it, but several versions have failed; Kerapac's headed there.

They cannot not be the same, having too much in common. It's like describing a crystal city inhabited by elves located west of mountain range and being divided into eight districts...and then referring to something completely new rather than Prifddinas.


The fact that Fossil Island in ORSS has no dinosaurs already showed your are wrong.

*sigh*

RS3 Fossil Island need not be the same as OSRS. I am basing that statement on the 2012 (I think? May have been 2013 or even 2014) artwork of the island, which shows dinosaurs.

But even if that one thing is wrong, the rest of the argument is still completely fine.
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26-May-2019 08:09:37

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Dilbert2001 said:
LordáDrakan said:
I give up. I'll just keep my trowel and specimen brush ready and pray.


Actually nothing to give up. Whatever name the new island is won't make any difference to the content and the entertainment it comes with.

We know there will be jungle, shores an dinosaurs. We also know there will be
new skilling activites
. That's already a very promising start since we know it will unlikely to be the same old, same old, boring and uninspiring wc, pickpocketing, fishing, rockslide trapping etc in Menaphos and the OSRS Fossil Island.

Whatever name the island is called doesn't matter much. It is the
content
which matters. :)

I don't care about the name; Kudos or Fossil Island is just the placeholder until the museum officially names it. I hope it's very similar to OSRS though, their island has super fun activities with an archaeology theme (of course the entire island should be about archaeology and exploration). And not similar to Menaphos. If it weren't for the insects, I'd not have touched any of those skill training things (and now that I am done with the insects, I shan't).
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28-May-2019 07:20:54

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DracoáBurnz said:
JonáStryder said:


What is considered 'bad' varies from person to person.

For me, skilling for over 2 hours per day, every day of the event, to collect enough in-game currency (twigs, leaves, embers, tokens, whatever) to unlock all the rewards, where missing even a single day will dash your hopes of completing the event, would be 'Bad'.
Skilling for 30 minutes per day, in a much more forgiving event, not so much.

Where on that scale this new event will come, we have yet to see.


Uhh im sure you're still able to achieve everything even if you start on the last day.

That's how the other event have been at least.

Without buying MTX stuff or playing for an unhealthy amount, I've been unable to complete such "events" starting from the first day, with daily interaction... I absolutely loathe them and am very disheartened to see such a massive update like Fossil Island (or, at this point, just Island :P) is preceded by one.

But as Jon said, let's get the thread back on track.

According to Mod Daze on the Tiwtter, the island won't be similar to OSRS's version (i.e. the originally intended version, as designed by Mod Mark and Mod Maz) but focus on Desperate Times instead. Personally I'm very upset by this... Also why does that quest get a sequel within a few months, while The Prisoner of Glouphrie and Elemental Workshop IV have been waiting for over eight years now... ;_;
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