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Sepulchre
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The Kharid-Ib is a shard of Tumeken.. or rather, a weakened form. It's almost like he was able to replicate what the Elder Gods do, he used up almost all his energy in the explosion that ended the Kharidian-Zarosian war, and had to revert to a more.. sustainable form. Icthlarin already told us he wasn't dead, only in a dormant state.
As for why he's so afraid to go in the Desert, well maybe guilt of what he was forced to do? Maybe he knew that in his weakened state, his now insane daughter would try to use his power for her own ends?
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18-Apr-2016 06:40:42

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It could be that a lot of his power went into what we now know as the heart (soaking into the desert and forming a giant crystal or whatever the heck "the heart" is, it's a lot harder to tell than in the concept art), and his actual personality and "soul" (whatever a god can call that) went into the Kharid-Ib.

Sepulchre said:
Maybe he knew that in his weakened state, his now insane daughter would try to use his power for her own ends?


Yep. So naturally we deliver him right into her evil, evil clutches.

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18-Apr-2016 07:47:38 - Last edited on 18-Apr-2016 07:48:34 by Lego Miester

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Lego Miester said:
It could be that a lot of his power went into what we now know as the heart (soaking into the desert and forming a giant crystal or whatever the heck "the heart" is, it's a lot harder to tell than in the concept art), and his actual personality and "soul" (whatever a god can call that) went into the Kharid-Ib.

Sepulchre said:
Maybe he knew that in his weakened state, his now insane daughter would try to use his power for her own ends?


Yep. So naturally we deliver him right into her evil, evil clutches.

We're the good guys!


Ozan is entirely to blame. If he had stopped Amascut the first time, we wouldn't be in this mess.
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18-Apr-2016 10:41:27

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Tumeken is a lower Tier than Bandos, and no one gave a **** about Bandos's energy. "Your god's dead next time he's in a world event. "
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18-Apr-2016 12:35:26

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Nightmare fuel:
Much like how V died, you can imagine the entire area suddenly shaking as the energy from the Heart is drained.
Tumeken's body shakes and convulses.
But those draining the energy don't care.
Such is the effect of power.

When the last traces of energy are drained, the whole area turns to stone, just as it does with any other body of a god.

And when it is over, there will be just enough traces left to keep some lingering around to fight over the scraps, and the armies will continue to fight each other because it is all they have left.

18-Apr-2016 17:10:02

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The prevailing theory on the forums is that Tumeken was split into the four lesser gods (and the Kharid-ib!) and that's where all his power went. I don't really like this theory, as it mixes together the four lesser gods and the Ancient Egyptian concept of the soul, and the four lesser gods don't really fit together nicely with the Ancient Egyptian concept of death. The four lesser gods don't really fit in well with the timeline for Tumeken if they were major parts of him, either. So, that's one point for the Heart being Tumeken's energy.

The biggest issue with all Kharidian theories is that we don't know of Tumeken's origins beyond him eventually making it to the Kharidian Peninsula. He could've been a man who lived along the banks, or he could've been some race from elsewhere in the universe. However, we know he's a more important god than the Tier Structure made him out to be: personally, I feel that he was a god before arriving on Gielinor.

Also, the point against the Heart being Tumeken's body is that it's described to be a cistern: the anima flows in and eventually gets pumped elsewhere. It can't be Tumeken's body if it were like that, unless Tumeken knew a lot more about Anima than we thought (which is a distinct possibility, as we know next to nothing about Tumeken other than he was stern, protective, and willing to do what must be done.)

I like to think that Tumeken is near the heart, in some mummified way. That way, he gets to regain some power without siphoning too much. The mummification explains the Kharid-ib, and ties in the Missing My Mummy quest.
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19-Apr-2016 04:49:03

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What if the Heart is just a Jas-ian energy nexus? Tumeken may have left remains (possibly the Kharid-Ib), and Amascut may have taken the Ib to the Heart in order to revive her father.

Maybe this could mean her insanity is losing its hold? Maybe she thinks that reviving him may sway him to her side? Or maybe she wants to revive him, just to kill him in a weakened state, in order to obtain his powers?

Either way, this would add a Kharidian faction to the dungeon later on (somewhat like the addition of Nex to GWD 1).

19-Apr-2016 10:56:18

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Bloodcount said:
I feel like I somehow killed this thread...
Too bad this thread isn't a God, or else you'd move up on Sliske's Scoreboard.
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29-Apr-2016 10:16:41

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Telos would not be there is the heart was just Tumeken's energy, he is an anima mundi construct, ordered by the elder gods to guard the heart, no, the heart is what it was explained to be, the place where the world's anima is gathered and distributed.

24-Aug-2016 14:02:11

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