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Tuffty
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I think the livestream was 1 of the best that Jagex have put out there. They were very forthcoming with their future plans.

The were very transparent with the facts and figures.

I would like to read over the trasnscript when it's done incase I missed any of the points.

I felt it was a good stream.

Not just saying that as a F-Mod I'm saying that as Tuffty player of RuneScape for 18+ years.
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05-Nov-2019 18:46:48

Varpushaukka
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Tuffty said:
I think the livestream was 1 of the best that Jagex have put out there. They were very forthcoming with their future plans.

The were very transparent with the facts and figures.

I would like to read over the trasnscript when it's done incase I missed any of the points.

I felt it was a good stream.

Not just saying that as a F-Mod I'm saying that as Tuffty player of RuneScape for 18+ years.

You're delusional if you think they were "very transparent with the facts and figures": for starters, they didn't present
any
proof that MTX is necessary to exist for Runescape. They presented the whole "video games are expensive to make" argument, but gave no numbers to back it up. If that argument was actually true, they could've easily shown us their revenue/profit/income etc numbers to demonstrate that fact, but they didn't, because Jagex's own financial documents online have already proven this argument to be false.

Anyway, Mod Mic blatantly lied during the stream: at first he said that "MTX is optional" and that "we (Jagex) aren't milking the players", but when they were asked the question of allowing people to opt-out of Treasure Hunter, they refused it because "TH isn't optional".

So here's a protip from me to you, Jagex: if you're going to play the lying game, don't forget what you've already said, because when you keep contradicting yourself, you're easy to tell as a liar.
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05-Nov-2019 18:50:46

Varpushaukka
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Then there was also the whole
"we aren't as aggressive with MTX as other companies out there"
argument from their end: once again, even if that was true, it doesn't mean that what you've been doing is good. If someone punched you in the face and told you
"hey man, it's cool, I didn't kill you so it could've been worse, just accept the fact that I punched you"
, would you accept it just like that? I wouldn't, and I doubt anyone else would: if you're doing something immoral/illegal or whatever else wrong, it doesn't matter if someone else is doing something worse: you're still doing something you shouldn't be doing.
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05-Nov-2019 18:55:24

Dilbert2001
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They never said about MTX reduction beforehand. All along they said MTX is needed to keep the game healthy and evolving. They just said it was unbalanced and they wanted to make it more balanced going forward.

With this in mind, I think they delivered some good ideas in the lives stream. They talked about expanding the role of Oddments Store. They are thinking about consolidating other currency stores. They talked about making items obtainable from various ways, perhaps RuneCoins too. SGS is going to get a makeover, with LP only auras being able to be obtained, maybe with bonds.

They talked about transparency, not limited to just revealing the odds of RNG based events, but also on the time line of the their future plan, including when and how to release elite skilling outfits and such (but they won't be handed out totally free as said before in 2017).

They also admitted not too many players like cosmetics. That's why they have to sell progression items.

They showed there are not too many hardcore addicts in DXP weekends. Only 1% of them played 36 hours, and they have already taken the first step to make the next DXP less stressing.

The stream is quit constructive.

05-Nov-2019 19:03:13 - Last edited on 05-Nov-2019 19:10:24 by Dilbert2001

Ladyolake
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I watched it all. And Im willing to give them benefit of doubt.

I think they are trying.. Just they have lots of hate already over it and
its got to be done right.

I dont buy mtx for xp myself i do for cosmetics and solomons. but
they admit lots do buy for xp gains. That is something if they change
now I think pple will hate on them for that too.

I think its a no win situation they have gotten themselves in to.
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05-Nov-2019 19:16:39

Varpushaukka
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Ladyolake said:
I watched it all. And Im willing to give them benefit of doubt.

I think they are trying.. Just they have lots of hate already over it and
its got to be done right.

I dont buy mtx for xp myself i do for cosmetics and solomons. but
they admit lots do buy for xp gains. That is something if they change
now I think pple will hate on them for that too.

I think its a no win situation they have gotten themselves in to.

If Jagex developed the game to be fun to play, nobody would hate it if they removed exp MTX: if the game was fun to play, you wouldn't be paying to skip gameplay in the first place. Anyone with basic understanding of game design knows this, and that's the dilemma with Treasure Hunter: if it were optional, nobody would buy keys, so it has be forced in somehow, which means having boring grinding in the game that you either have to suffer through or pay to skip.
~Sparrowhawk

05-Nov-2019 19:22:53

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