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Ancient Drew

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BloodnSkulls said:
Kemtros said:
BloodnSkulls said:
Good to see Zaros is still at the top. But Armadyl's catching up. :|


However, I'm annoyed that Bandos is more popular than Seren. Even by the time of RuneFest, people would have been able to play The Light Within. Then again, I imagine that there are more people who have done The Light Within than those who've done Hero's Welcome. Nomad's Elegy allowed people to stand up for the Bandosian philosophy, but considering how that faction should be deader than dead, I would hope they could bring it down.


No one likes Seren. She was such a know nothing, good-for-nothing, useless whiny ***** in TLW, spewing ******** about how "hurr durr Zaros is eeeeeeevil." We know he's not, he's anything but evil, he has to become an Elder god to stop them. She's just too dumb to realize it.
Seren is actually a very complex subject. What you should understand is that she's highly emotional and might just be saying that stuff in the spur of the moment. Also she had basically been stuck in time since the end of the first God Wars, so Zaros couldn't really have told her about his plan to stop the Elder Gods. He might get the chance in FOT* 2 if she comes to Freneskae. She actually never says anything bad about Zaros in her memoriam device in Prifddinas. And she admits that she does love him after The Light Within, and wanted revenge against Zamorak for attacking him.
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10-Apr-2016 21:59:50

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BloodnSkulls said:
Abolish EoC said:
Kemtros, ultimately I feel sympathy for Zaros. He seems to be so misunderstood and disliked by many npcs, and I sympathize with being misjudged by someone when you are just trying to do your best or when you have a different moral code than the other person. Even his sister condemns him, and he loves her anyways (though not by choice). Perhaps I am projecting my feelings onto an alien being who may not think that way at all, but it still makes me feel for him.


Everyone hates him, everyone but me.

I'm the only one who understands him, and I'm the only one loyal to him.
Nicely done. You have just peed off your own entire faction, Azzanadra included.
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11-Apr-2016 20:23:45

Ancient Drew

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BloodnSkulls said:
Ancient Drew said:
BloodnSkulls said:
Abolish EoC said:
Kemtros, ultimately I feel sympathy for Zaros. He seems to be so misunderstood and disliked by many npcs, and I sympathize with being misjudged by someone when you are just trying to do your best or when you have a different moral code than the other person. Even his sister condemns him, and he loves her anyways (though not by choice). Perhaps I am projecting my feelings onto an alien being who may not think that way at all, but it still makes me feel for him.


Everyone hates him, everyone but me.

I'm the only one who understands him, and I'm the only one loyal to him.
Nicely done. You have just peed off your own entire faction, Azzanadra included.


NPCs don't count, I'm talking about players here. Out of all the 194,229 players that "support" him (most of them are ******** who skim and spacebar through quest dialogue and they're only in it for the rewards), I'm the only one who has read extensively about his backstory and philosophy, I'm the only one who understands him.
May I invite you to take a look at this thread I came up with a little while ago? It should explain a bit about my research and theories on Zaros, Seren, Mah and the Mahjarrat.
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11-Apr-2016 22:29:59

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An Aviansie said:
Armadyl is surprising to me. Not unwelcome of course, given my alignment, but surprising because despite a lack of content, he's grown massively in popularity. I'm guessing it might be because of the semi-recent, heavily negative portrayal of Saradomin.

Zamorak's popularity increase could be seen due to Dishonor Among Thieves. Even though I hate that quest with a passion the strength of a quadrillion tiny stars, it does show Zamorak positively for people who don't critically analyze it. Plus, his inclusion in God Wars Dungeon 2 may have helped a bit (even if these statistics came out before that was a thing.)

Saradomin's negative portrayal over the years is starting to show, big time. While I do like the character, I admit that things like the Naragi incident or Garlandia don't make the big blue guy look as noble as he could be portrayed. I personally blame this on trying to overdo showing Saradomin as a flawed character.
I thought Dishonour Among Thieves was quite interesting, really. Who to call the real bad guy? Are you yourself good or bad? Will whoever you side with betray you? What would your god do, if it's neither Zammy nor Sliske?

As for Armadyl, I would say he had a tough upbringing on Abbinah, where basic commodities were heavily competed for. Some of the kids, and this may even apply to Armadyl himself, may have been left in the nest after their parents got killed in the disputes. But then he met Saradomin, who may have had a part to play in policing Abbinah and ensuring peace and harmony, therefore securing the aviansies' survival.

As for Saradomin, people seem to forget that he's been proven to not be a complete monster. Zaros himself says he exists in the grey, and Sir Owen came back half corrupted instead of fully. He's a bit hot-headed for me, but he's not too bad in my opinion.

Armadyl is tied second with Seren for me. I sided with him in the second and third World Events.
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12-Apr-2016 16:09:02

Ancient Drew

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Raxxess said:
An Aviansie said:
Saradomin's negative portrayal over the years is starting to show, big time. While I do like the character, I admit that things like the Naragi incident or Garlandia don't make the big blue guy look as noble as he could be portrayed. I personally blame this on trying to overdo showing Saradomin as a flawed character.


Agreed. From the Saradomin Lore podcast it became pretty clear that the reason they went for incidents like that they didn't have really much lore behind them and were more one sided were for the sake of balancing world events, and in retrospect it was successful because he did come in last place in the Tuska event and had the biggest drops in player support among any god.

Now in order to know Saradomin isn't the evil god of RS you have to truly be well versed in all forms of lore from qnas to jmod quotes to obscure pieces of lore. But they say they are going to try and change that, and only time will see if they will succeed or fail.
I actually started off as a Saradominist until I met Azzanadra. I still think there's good in him, which is actually proven in Death of Chivalry when Sir Owen comes back as half corrupted, not fully. And he's human as well, so he's quite easy to understand and relate to. They will succeed in it; they managed to make Zamorak look good after all.
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13-Apr-2016 21:46:07

Ancient Drew

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Raleirosen said:
BloodnSkulls said:
Doesn't prove anything. You can quote and edit someone else's quotes to make them look bad.

Ancient Drew somehow found it within himself to respond to your idiocy with civility and patience, inviting you to take a look at one of his threads. At the same time, he didn't bother deleting part of the quote tree to condense the post, and his post is unedited.

It's safe to say he did not edit anything you wrote. A pointless act of sabotage, since almost everything you type is an embarrassment already.
Thank you for the support, I appreciate it. My invitation stands for everyone as well, so please feel free to take a look at it any time. :)
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