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Slayer Gem

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Soooo, after Kindred Spirits I've seen alot of people talk about
Sliske's master, **u-Tak, Verac being Zammorakian (Actually, I've seen no posts about that. Shame, because for me that was something awesome, not only because it's a "plot twist", but also because it made total sense! Verac was the one who could ignore the prayers to Saradomin of other people. Why would he punish the people praying to his beloved God? Well here is our answer. But that's not the reason for this post so I'll move on.


What I found interesting was the fact that the lore book "Sliske's Ramblings" spelled out whether Sliske did ascend to Godhood after killing Guthix or not!

"I have used the Siphon to slay one of the most powerful beings to walk Gielinor. The great Guthix, felled by my hand, by my whim... by my destiny.
Yet already his power had been passed on. As predicted(!!!) the Siphon was insufficient to grant me ascension, for which I am so very very glad."

So there we go. It's now confirmed that Sliske didn't become a God directly after killing Guthix with an Elder Artifact.

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26-May-2016 00:39:40

Slayer Gem

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This quote and information does leave me with some questions though...

1. Did Sliske become a God after some time? He did spend alot of time around the Catalyst and the Siphon, so is he a God now?

2. Why was he very very glad he did not ascend? This made me think about him as a character. Does he hate Gods soo much that his whole Game of killing Gods is a way for him to get rid of Gods? Is that why he doesn't wanna become a God himself? That would kinda make him Guthixian right? :P In all seriousness tho, maybe it has to do with his master. Does Sliske also plan to kill him because Sliske still isn't the one pulling the strings?

3. How did he know that the Siphon was insufficient to grant him ascention? Guthix killed a God with the Elder Sword that was used for interdimentional travelling, and he did ascend. Sliske killed a God with the Siphon which use is literally siphoning energy from one thing to another, and that was "insufficient"? There is no logic in this so Sliske must have had some intel about the Siphon. That's why he also knows about the soul-stealing capability.

What do you guys think? Please discuss!

26-May-2016 00:40:03 - Last edited on 26-May-2016 00:57:17 by Slayer Gem

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1. No.

2. Because gods, just like Mahjarrat, are permanently erased through death. My theory is he knows that his race will eventually die due to the rituals and without anyone else to sacrifice he too will die. Becoming a god, however powerful, also has this restriction. He doesn't want death to be the end.

3. The power of Guthix had already passed on. Likely to us in the chamber that saw us become a Guardian.
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26-May-2016 00:58:02

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Slayer Gem said:

1. Did Sliske become a God after some time? He did spend alot of time around the Catalyst and the Siphon, so is he a God now?


I don't think he is. It appears that ascension occurs after a long exposure to the Catalyst (assuming you don't go draw power from it directly) lasting what I'm guessing is a few thousand years or so. Sliske had it for....a few years at most, depending on how accurate his diary is. He's gained knowledge and maybe a little power from it, but not enough to ascend yet.

Slayer Gem said:
2. Why was he very very glad he did not ascend? Does he hate Gods soo much that his whole Game of killing Gods is a way for him to get rid of Gods? Is that why he doesn't wanna become a God himself? That would kinda make him Guthixian right? :P In all seriousness tho, maybe it has to do with his master. Does Sliske also plan to kill him because Sliske still isn't the one pulling the strings?


I'm going with the line of thought that says becoming a god around the time you announce a god killing contest is a pretty stupid idea. It puts a target on your back, and now that we know about his master, I'm guessing they'll see him as a threat too if he became a god.

Slayer Gem said:
3. How did he know that the Siphon was insufficient to grant him ascention? Guthix killed a God with the Elder Sword that was used for interdimentional travelling, and he did ascend. Sliske killed a God with the Siphon which use is literally siphoning energy from one thing to another, and that was "insufficient"?


Guthix killed a god when nobody was really around to absorb the energy. Sliske killed Guthix after he used his power to make us the World Guardian and do whatever else he was doing with it at the time. I'm not sure if we can quantify the amounts of power here, but I imagine it's like the difference between draining a full battery vs a half empty one.
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26-May-2016 02:31:25

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Slayer Gem said:
3. How did he know that the Siphon was insufficient to grant him ascention? Guthix killed a God with the Elder Sword that was used for interdimentional travelling, and he did ascend. Sliske killed a God with the Siphon which use is literally siphoning energy from one thing to another, and that was "insufficient"? There is no logic in this so Sliske must have had some intel about the Siphon. That's why he also knows about the soul-stealing capability.


I have a theory...take a look at everyone who has killed a God. There are people who killed a God physically (Zamorak, Guthix, and Bandos) and those who killed them indirectly (Armadyl, Sliske, Dragonkin).

Notice how all the people who directly killed a God physically ascened and gained power. Those who killed indirectly, at a range, gained no power. I think physical contact--or a conduit--attached to the God is required to ascend. So if you just blast a God (like Sliske did) the power doesn't know to go to you and it just returns to the planet.
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26-May-2016 02:51:26

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Hazeel said:
Slayer Gem said:
3. How did he know that the Siphon was insufficient to grant him ascention? Guthix killed a God with the Elder Sword that was used for interdimentional travelling, and he did ascend. Sliske killed a God with the Siphon which use is literally siphoning energy from one thing to another, and that was "insufficient"? There is no logic in this so Sliske must have had some intel about the Siphon. That's why he also knows about the soul-stealing capability.


I have a theory...take a look at everyone who has killed a God. There are people who killed a God physically (Zamorak, Guthix, and Bandos) and those who killed them indirectly (Armadyl, Sliske, Dragonkin).

Notice how all the people who directly killed a God physically ascened and gained power. Those who killed indirectly, at a range, gained no power. I think physical contact--or a conduit--attached to the God is required to ascend. So if you just blast a God (like Sliske did) the power doesn't know to go to you and it just returns to the planet.
Which is why Divination exists. Guthix's energies that didn't go to us were thrown around to various places on Gielinor.
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26-May-2016 07:18:08

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Sepulchre said:
Hazeel said:
Slayer Gem said:
3. How did he know that the Siphon was insufficient to grant him ascention? Guthix killed a God with the Elder Sword that was used for interdimentional travelling, and he did ascend. Sliske killed a God with the Siphon which use is literally siphoning energy from one thing to another, and that was "insufficient"? There is no logic in this so Sliske must have had some intel about the Siphon. That's why he also knows about the soul-stealing capability.


I have a theory...take a look at everyone who has killed a God. There are people who killed a God physically (Zamorak, Guthix, and Bandos) and those who killed them indirectly (Armadyl, Sliske, Dragonkin).

Notice how all the people who directly killed a God physically ascened and gained power. Those who killed indirectly, at a range, gained no power. I think physical contact--or a conduit--attached to the God is required to ascend. So if you just blast a God (like Sliske did) the power doesn't know to go to you and it just returns to the planet.
Which is why Divination exists. Guthix's energies that didn't go to us were thrown around to various places on Gielinor.


I thought the narrative behind Divination was that Guthix was channeling the anima elsewhere (Possibly to appease the elder gods in their slumber since they care only for anima), and that once he died they burst out of the ground because he was no longer controlling them?

26-May-2016 07:23:25

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Divination wisps are a combination of Guthix's life force and supposedly the divine energy of the Barrier of the Edicts, according to May, the Divination researcher near Draynor and Lumbridge.
So no, as far as I'm aware, Divination is the result of Guthix's life force being spread throughout Gielinor upon his death, rather than it being absorbed by Sliske.
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26-May-2016 07:31:51

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Well, You do realise we knew that since, IDK, some quest some time ago. Sliske would grant us one question, then ability to see shadow realm.

One of the questions was whether he was a god or not; we also found out he really has the SoJ.

26-May-2016 12:47:25

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