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iXavior

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Before you read on, this is all headcanon theory.

Elidinis is dead. She was not invited during Sliske's Grand Ascension (which took place in the 6th Age), despite being a god. Why didn't Sliske invite her or at least give her her own podium?

Here is what I think: something happened to her during the timeframe between the Desert series questline up to the point of Sliske's Ascension Ceremony.

Sliske invited Marimbo AND Seren, despite not knowing their current state or whether or not they were even on Gielinor. He assumed they were on Gielinor and invited them anyway. Why did he not Elidinis? Something must have happened to her causing Sliske not to invite her. Sliske obviously didn't invite her husband, Tumeken, because he and all the other Mahjarrat witnessed his death in person.

I don't believe Sliske was unaware of Seren's shattered state, her background with Zaros, or the fact she is an almighty tier 2 god, but he STILL invited her anyway probably assuming she was some average god in the ranks of Armadyl and Marimbo. Obviously since MPD is a predecessor quest of TLW, Seren was still shattered at the time. He must have not know of her shattered state. Why would Sliske leave a podium/send an invitation to Seren if he knew she was "dead" and not going to show up, like Tumken?

Did Sliske simply forget to invite Elidinis? I don't think this is the case. How can you remember to invite a monkey and cabbage god but not the mother of two arbiters of the afterlife?!

According to the recent Summer Summit survey, the desert quest series is to continue on in the 5th age. Whatever happened to Elidinis must have happened sometime shortly after Guthix died (or she died off-plane during the 5th age desert questline and we somehow all witnessed it, including Sliske, who is said to constantly stalk us from the Shadow Realm.)

OHH, and what about Amascut! She didn't get a podium too! Maybe beause she died during the 5th age Desert storyline?

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01-Jun-2016 10:17:17 - Last edited on 01-Jun-2016 10:27:30 by iXavior

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Sealed up or probably elsewhere, maybe a combo of both even. She left gielinor when the edicts were put up I remember.
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01-Jun-2016 11:44:46

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Possibly because Elidinis was not present on Gielinor in any shape and form to begin with. JMods have said themselves that they want to do something with Elidinis to flesh her out as more than "Tumeken's wife", so killing her offscreen does not seem to be the smartest of moves, development-wise.

Besides, Sliske did not invite a lot of other gods who were on Gielinor in the past and were alive during the quest, like V, the Karamjan God and Xau-Tak. Just because Sliske did not invite Elidinis to his ascension does not mean she is dead.

The desert gods were presumably not invited because Sliske didn't consider them important enough: the only reason why he invited Icthlarin seems to be because he has a bone to pick with him. As for why Amascut was not invited, it is likely because she is way too insane to be manipulated by Sliske: however, the reason for that is not that she is dead due to something that happened during the Fifth Age, as the 2015 Halloween event canonically took place during the Sixth Age, and featured Amascut alive. This also means that the Desert questline's finale will either leave Amascut insane, or be moved to the Sixth Age to allow Amascut being cured.

My personal headcanon is that after Elidinis left Gielinor during the Fifth Age, she arrived on an arid world where people desperately needed water to survive, and as a river goddess, she has been maintaining the world and its people to this day.

01-Jun-2016 12:43:35

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Aquamancer said:
As for why Amascut was not invited, it is likely because she is way too insane to be manipulated by Sliske: however, the reason for that is not that she is dead due to something that happened during the Fifth Age, as the 2015 Halloween event canonically took place during the Sixth Age, and featured Amascut alive. This also means that the Desert questline's finale will either leave Amascut insane, or be moved to the Sixth Age to allow Amascut being cured.

Or it'll just be made non-canon. Nothing of value would be lost, and Nomad's Elegy already pretty much ignores it.
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01-Jun-2016 13:07:08

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I'd like to think she is trapped someone. That way when they do decide to use her, they can pitch a quest that is about some planet and focus on that during the advertising then have it as a surprise.

I wouldn't put too much stock in Sliske - it could be something as simple as targeting those he deems worthy or whatever. Seren was invited but he had to make it look like she was coming to Saradomin.
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01-Jun-2016 21:35:07

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Aquamancer said:
however, the reason for that is not that she is dead due to something that happened during the Fifth Age, as the 2015 Halloween event canonically took place during the Sixth Age, and featured Amascut alive.
in the same quest where sliske doesn't invite amascut, icthlarin talks about her being insane and hopes he can save her

Minus icthlarin, the desert god storyline isn't really a part of other events
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02-Jun-2016 01:15:15 - Last edited on 02-Jun-2016 01:16:05 by MaidenáChina

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The desert gods just aren't very important in the grand scheme of things (at least as far as the 6th Age is concerned). Icthlarin was invited solely because he was once Sliske's master, and Sliske wanted a chance to gloat. Similar to the reason Brassica was invited - to mock the other gods.

02-Jun-2016 03:12:41

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I recall someone else on these forums suggesting that now that her husband is dead, Elidinis has left Gielinor, reinvented herself and is now the Queen of Ashes.

The problem with this theory is that many people believe the Queen of Ashes to be a demon, given her name and the fact that her cause is described as infernal.

However, Chthonians at least have the ability to fuse with other beings (usually by absorbing them). A merger on more equal terms might also be a possibility; I could see the Queen of Ashes being a fused dual being (similar to Firestorm from the DC comics) comprised of Elidinis and a Chthonian. Of course, that raises the question of how and why they would have fused in the first place (voluntarily, or involuntarily perhaps during the course of the same battle that killed her husband?)

That would be interesting for sure; two former enemies, Elidinis and a Zarosian Chthonian, being forced to share the same life.
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02-Jun-2016 04:32:33

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No, canonically, if you pay attention during Missing, Presumed Death (as was pointed out already, I now see) Icthlarin mentions Amascut still being around.

As to why Elidinis didn't get an invitation.. Brassica got an invitation because Sliske knew he was around. Seren had a podium because part of his trick to get Saradomin there was to make him think Seren would be there. If Saradomin showed up and saw no podium for Seren he'd be like "Well she's not here. Kbai."
Back to the point. I think Sliske only invited Gods he had a plan for. It's possible he simply didn't have a plan to lure Elidinis there, or perhaps knew she wasn't back.
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02-Jun-2016 06:35:34

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