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Per Ignem
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Hey, i got a question regarding the Peanutlabs service provided by Jagex, that offers the opportunity to earn runecoins and th-keys, by filling in survey's.

I can say Peanutlab actually works great, and i use the service from time to time when i am short on money and need fast runecoins.

But because the Peanutlab redirects trough several survey websites, that are used for marketing research, i have a question regarding my online privacy, in terms of tracking cookies that will be stored.

Usually when i am worried about cookies and stuff, i just reinstall my Arch Linux system within 2 hours, but the process can be boring. Especially if you reinstall once or twice a week..

So i wonder, if removing cookies, and not tracking history, with Firefox, is enough to make sure the "third-party marketing websites" not track my online behavior..

What do you think?

07-Aug-2019 02:50:35

Hmm
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Hmm

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Capitalist surveilance! My Jam!

So the answer here in tl;dr fashion is you're screwed either way.

Reinstalling Arch is overkill for removing cookies. They're not hard to remove, the browser delete function WILL get all of them, supercookies of flash and Java are a thing of the past because most browsers don't enable them by default these days.

Now, the actual issue is, unless you're using something similar to Tor, it actually doesn't matter. Because cookies aren't the only way to fingerprint you. Your browser will have a SUBSTANTIAL amount of information that is variant on your exclusive combination of system features that you're going to be identifiable either way. OS. Installed fonts. Monitor count. Monitor resolution. Size of your browser UI (particularly Linux with themes), fingerprint of the output of your GPU doing some renderering (which encapsulates OS, GPU version, etc).

To see that in practise, take a look at the EFF project Panopticlick

https://panopticlick.eff.org/

And here's my ACTUAL values.



And when it says only 1 in 60k browsers had my same configuration, that other one guy is ALSO me. Out of 60k computers they keep stored from the past 45 days, without using cookies, you can identify my PC individually regardless.

There is a way to make firefox lie about a lot of this (about:config --> privacy.resistfingerprinting), but the reality is, you'd really need something like the tor browser bundle to do a good job, and even THAT has caveats, flaws it can't fix, or common mistakes people will make whilst using it.

So as I say, the Tl;Dr is you should stop really worrying about this, because it's already a losing battle. For fixing your privacy up, you'd be much better served by deleting unused accounts, using a password manager, posting on Facebook less, etc.

Personally though, for getting them free runecoins, I just turn off ublock and do it in private browsing.

07-Aug-2019 03:09:28 - Last edited on 07-Aug-2019 03:16:13 by Hmm

Per Ignem
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Per Ignem

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lmao Hmm, haha i already thought this would be the perfect thing for you to answer! ;)

Hmm said:
Capitalist surveilance! My Jam!

So the answer here in tl;dr fashion is you're screwed either way.

Reinstalling Arch is overkill for removing cookies. They're not hard to remove, the browser delete function WILL get all of them, supercookies of flash and Java are a thing of the past because most browsers don't enable them by default these days.

Now, the actual issue is, unless you're using something similar to Tor, it actually doesn't matter.

Thanks again Hmm :)

07-Aug-2019 03:19:11

Hmm
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Hmm

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NP

It's unfortunate the answer is as pessemistic as it is, but this is the world we live in. It's why I have particular issues with certain services, take Facebook, which uses its glorious AI to realise that 4 years ago I had a sweetheard who I've had zero communications with in that entire time, but due to the power of money, Facebook will stop at no end to remind me she exists. People will then go "Well why not press the button to tell it you have no interest in seeing her Hmm?", Well, do you press that button on every person FB says you know who you don't? No. So by telling it I don't know her, it knows I *DO* know her, just that I don't like her.

And that is ironically a lot of the problem with data privacy these days. The only thing you can try do is give less of it, because as Panopticlick will show you above, even turning on "Do not track" will just make you easier to track.

Still, if you do have specific questions on potential replacements for common tools or the like, hit me up cos I might have some shouts.

For example focusing on just firefox, consider:

UBlock Origin over any other adblocker (they all perform worse and lie anyway) + UBlock has tracker lists enabled by default
Consider Privacy Badger, by the EFF, which will heuristically detect trackers and block them over time
UMatrix, which takes blacklist by default to the extreme.

Use firefox + adblock on Android, if Firefox performance is unacceptable to you, try it after the Fenix release, but you can also consider Bromite to replace Chrome (unavailable on the store, but it's Chromium + privacy tweaks + adblock).

Newpipe as an alternative youtube client for Android.

Linux in general gives you a really good advantage over Windows

Signal > Whatsapp > Messenger

And finally, try not to worry about it too much, because I see people regularly get obsessed over maximising privacy at the cost of their mental health (I'm one of them). Don't lower your quality of life overit

07-Aug-2019 03:27:42 - Last edited on 07-Aug-2019 03:31:40 by Hmm

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