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Hi everyone, and welcome to the very first discontinued items discussion thread!

The purpose of this thread is to
discuss
the following discontinued items, and their prices:

Masks - Halloween Masks,
Edibles - Easter Egg, Pumpkin, Disk of Returning, and Half Jug of Wine
Xmas - Christmas Scythe, Red Santa Hat, Wreath, Black Santa Hat
Party Hats and Christmas Cracker

I encourage everyone to speculate on these items' trends, their overall market, and anything else you might have to say about them and their connection with the RS economy! You may also post item prices, if it is included in your overall discussion, but this thread is not intended to take the place of the Discontinued Items Status!

Many thanks to all who contribute, and I hope that you all find this thread insightful!

-RichKngMidas
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29-Jun-2020 19:04:25 - Last edited on 29-Jun-2020 19:34:54 by RichKngMidas

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. I'm known as Rich King Midas, and when you look at me, you'll see a king who knows a thing about his treasury. I never cared for women. I've never cared for wine. But when I count a large amount of money - ha ha - it's divine!

29-Jun-2020 19:32:46 - Last edited on 03-Jul-2020 05:38:36 by RichKngMidas

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A player in the discontinued items status thread asked "what's going on with the easter egg right now?"

We notice the price has gone from 235M only a month ago to now 700M+ ( up from 415M yesterday).

The answer to that question is simple, a buy out. Low volume items are incredibly easy to buy up and cause their price to skyrocket. A group is simply buying up the stock for cheap and will unload for 3 - 4x their initial investment.

I was lucky and bought 115 easters last month for 280 avg. I cashed out thanks to other merchers. That would have been 48B profit if I managed to sell them at 700M +, though this is unlikely. As you trickle an item back to the players, the price declines. I made just under 20B, just on the rise :P easy money

The trick is not to get too greedy. Eventually someone will be stuck holding them and they will deflate in price, and they get to watch their bank implode lol. I've been that guy before and it's not fun
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29-Jun-2020 20:13:43 - Last edited on 29-Jun-2020 20:17:32 by RichKngMidas

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H Rassy said:
Seeing how there is still a ton of extra gp in the rare market for buying out all sorts of low volume small rares it seems inevitable to me that all this extra money,no matter where it came from,eventually will make its way into the partyhat market as well.
And that,given enough time,the historical ratios which have been rather stable over many years,will be restored.

If all small rares can double from their lows a few months ago,then why would in the end partyhats not double from their lows as well?


Because phats take a lot more capital to buy up, and it's only a handful of us trading them back and fourth .. the historical ratios are then mute, I think, because you have more available money to target these smaller items, whereas phats are a much more inflated market already.

Overall, I think RS rares will experience a sort of depression in the next 12 months is my prediction. This same thing happened in 2017. Pumpkins were 1.4B and crashed to 400, even sub- 400 for a period after.

I don't hold the belief that a massive gp dupe happened and that money was liquidated before getting removed. I think the dupe was a lot less successful than many believe, and a lot of.gp has already been removed.

If trillions were injected into the economy, why aren't bonds, which are a pretty solid measure of inflation, 40m ea or something ridiculous? Why just the rares market? It should be every market inflating, if that is the case.

But regardless of where the money is coming from, this has already happened once before, followed by a crash. Why would this time around be any different?

Just my two cents.
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29-Jun-2020 21:12:51 - Last edited on 29-Jun-2020 21:32:09 by RichKngMidas

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Josh-yoo-wa said:
What was the item you got stuck with that made your bank implode? :-P


I lost a substantial amount on half wines when they were still traded in the GE at one point. Lol. My own fault, though. I got greedy. I thought I would buy out and control the entire market, because they're such a low volume item. I'm pretty sure, at that point, I probably did have the entire active wines in my bank, but I quickly realized no one gave a darn about the item and I couldn't liquidate them for a profit ... would have taken months. Ended up losing quite a bit on them. Did make it back, but still pretty bitter about it to this day.

In retrospect, if i had known they'd climb to 3.5 - 4.5 B now, and be quite coveted, I'd be pretty happy having so many of them.

I still have 7 wines, actually. It's like a bad memory I hold onto for a personal lesson to myself. I love/hate my half wines. Lol.
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29-Jun-2020 23:26:59 - Last edited on 29-Jun-2020 23:28:07 by RichKngMidas

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Josh-yoo-wa said:
Ahhh the old love/hate relationship with alcohol....slippery slope my friend, be careful!


Yeah stay away from those half wines. They'll get ya haha

They heal like 7hp btw, if anyone's curious. Not sure what that would be in EOC, don't care to find out again lol
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30-Jun-2020 17:54:45 - Last edited on 30-Jun-2020 18:05:59 by RichKngMidas

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Santa hats seem to be moving again. Any thoughts? I'm known as Rich King Midas, and when you look at me, you'll see a king who knows a thing about his treasury. I never cared for women. I've never cared for wine. But when I count a large amount of money - ha ha - it's divine!

01-Jul-2020 17:49:36

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01-Jul-2020 20:25:03 - Last edited on 03-Jul-2020 05:39:39 by RichKngMidas

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02-Jul-2020 01:42:53 - Last edited on 03-Jul-2020 05:40:06 by RichKngMidas

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Josh-yoo-wa said:
I think Pumpkins are the one to watch, in relation to Disk and Easter Egg prices. Although I could be wrong?


Pumpkins, like disks and eggs are another fairly low volume item, so you're probably right on that. Any sort of buy-up tends to have a profound impact on their price. In 2017, they actually reached a peak of 1.4B. They definitely have potential.
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02-Jul-2020 02:16:54

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Josh-yoo-wa said:
RichKngMidas said:
Santa hats seem to be moving again. Any thoughts?


I reckon as they stabilized in the 1300s, people who sold at the peak assumed they have now bottomed out and are buying back.


I think so. At first I did anticipate a correction to pre-May prices, given the size and scope of the increase, and all of the hysteria the duplication caused; but upon further examination I think these rises are mostly due to merching. I myself have done some of these items, and upon further examination of the data from the 2017 buy up, which I treat as a good parallel, I think some of this pump will indeed stick.

I calculated, for the santa hat in 2017, it was something like a 128% price increase over three months, eventually correcting and stablizing to 55% of its original price.

So, you're probably right: 1300M could very well be the new bottom for the Santa Hat.
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02-Jul-2020 02:23:02

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I will add to that, that demand does go away and all these people are holding phats, they will have to end up offering phats for lower and lower amounts, until they can bring buyers back into the market.

I have seen this one before. A lot of them are interested too much in gp to simply hold their phats :P
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02-Jul-2020 15:48:03

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02-Jul-2020 21:20:47 - Last edited on 03-Jul-2020 05:31:05 by RichKngMidas

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02-Jul-2020 21:56:17 - Last edited on 03-Jul-2020 05:31:25 by RichKngMidas

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02-Jul-2020 22:35:22 - Last edited on 03-Jul-2020 05:31:50 by RichKngMidas

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@ H Rassy

Hats are okay, but most players are priced out of that market. That's why they've lagged behind the return of something like a santa hat, percentage-wise in the last three years. Purple may have gone from 9 to 12 in a short period, but santa went from 800 to a peak of 1750 ... almost 2x its price! There is just so much more potential for money to be put up for a cheaper rare like a santa hat, than for people to even get into the phat market.

And the phat performance hasn't been steller until this recent run. Look at blue, it went from 29B in 2017 to under 18B. It slowly raised up, taking years to breach 20, 22. And only now did it reach its 29B peak again. I don't see that as great performance.

It's more likely for an item like a santa hat, which is popular, and looks good, to rise closer to phats than for phats to reach mythological levels of pcs, I think.
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03-Jul-2020 01:09:06

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I think pursuing a phat is more of an old idea. For too many new players, the goal is completely out of reach, so they're more likely to set their sights on something attainable for them, like a santa hat, for example.

I hate to say it, but the truth of the phats market is that it is just the same few of us, maybe 20 players total, and their alts, trading phats back and fourth.

Often phats are traded for other phats - swapped - for other phats with bit of gp added or other phats; not often, does someone just come in with a mass shards stack to buy a phat, meaning that their prices are pretty fictive in a lot of ways.

You're very lucky if you get a shards stack for a phat.

I say this as someone who also owns phats. :P

If blue was priced at 500b, ex, you wouldn't ever get someone with 500b to throw at you. It would just be white, valued also at some ridiculous amount, and a green and a bit of cash. Things like this.

The future of the phats market in my view is stable prices, if not less. And if they ever do go up, in the style of growth like they had pre-2017, it's going to be more of a symbolic value than anything.

IMO, they're not a great long term investment anymore, as they seem to have reached their market cap.
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03-Jul-2020 04:35:10 - Last edited on 03-Jul-2020 04:47:40 by RichKngMidas

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Trip180 said:
If we see a DXP event soon, then rare prices ???

Regarding phats, one question is:

Which item will rise more quickly: Santa, Scythe, Phat, CTH, Pumpkin, Wine, H'ween, some random token, etc. (Fish?)


What relation is there to DXP and rares rises? Why do you think they will rise?

Sorry, I'm an older player and DXP was only ever like a once a year event. Seems they do them all the time now.

It appears to me that if there was a DXP, wouldn't people liquidate their rares for skilling materials? Wouldn't that produce a crash, if anything? Why would people suddenly invest in rares?
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03-Jul-2020 04:50:39 - Last edited on 03-Jul-2020 04:52:44 by RichKngMidas

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Let's stay on topic, please.

Does anyone have any predictions as to how an upcoming DXP will impact the rares market? How about GWD3?
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03-Jul-2020 05:33:57 - Last edited on 03-Jul-2020 05:34:48 by RichKngMidas

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I would love for these statistics to be done for H'ween masks, as well.

If there were 10k Santa’s dropped in 2002, can we agree that the same number of release is true for H'weens, which had the same manuel release method, and actually proceeded the Santa hat? And then, how many H'weens would have likely been added to the game?

Certainly, I think they would not have added 10k of each color, due to the drop being a manuel, labor intensive process, as pointed out by 4P, but probably did the same style/amount of drop to the Santa hat, but with equal H'ween creation per color.

So, maybe:
3k greens
3k blues
3k reds.

Any thoughts? Does that seem accurate?
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03-Jul-2020 22:33:29

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I'm curious if anyone has opinions on the relevancy of historical ratios in today's market.

If we take a snapshot of prices from March 2010, and this is what I have in my old spreadsheet, here is roughly what the market looks like:

Xmas cracker: 688M

Phats:

Green:169.7 million GP
Red: 198.3 million GP
White: 225.8 million GP
Yellow: 171.3 million GP
Blue: 328.5 million GP
Purple: 158.1 million GP

H'weens:

Green: 20M
Blue: 23.3M
Red: 31.8M

Santa hat: 20.2M

Non-wearables:

Half wine: 31M
Disk: 8.9M
Pumpkin: 13.6M
Easter: 16.4M

What do you think about the performance of some of these items over others? What do you think it means for the future, if anything? Can we use these statistics to say one item is under/overvalued in today's market, or do the historical prices not apply to today?

Any thoughts?
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04-Jul-2020 18:01:28

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Some interesting observations, speaking in terms of items' ratios from 2010, compared to today: Xmas cracker was worth about 2x blues - now, just a bit over blue, if not the same. A disk was worth about half a green ween, now it is about 3x the price of the green ween. Santa's also stood just a little over green ween, and under the blue ween, and now they are worth about 2x their value.

Speaking in terms of hats to lowers, about 16 green hweens, or 16 santa hats, would buy you a blue partyhat in March of 2010. Today, it would take about 45 to 50 green weens, and roughly 20 santa hats to buy you a blue partyhat today.

Edibles are interesting as well. Back then, a half wine was worth about the price of a red ween. Now it is about 6- 7 red hweens. Two pumpkins were worth a little over 1 blue ween. Now one pumpkin is worth about 100 M more than one blue ween.

Any thoughts on any of this? Can we incur that some items are undervalued right now and others overvalued, or were these changes in ratios expected due to the rarity of some of these items and player demand?

IMO H'weens have been the worst performers in the last decade, whereas the half wine has been one of the best items in terms of these ratios shifting. Everything has shifted up together predictably, but the stretch between H'weens and other items has increased substantially. Why is that? Any thoughts?
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04-Jul-2020 18:14:35 - Last edited on 04-Jul-2020 23:57:36 by RichKngMidas

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@Shn To me, the data, showing significantly more sales than buys, now, means that a lot of players in the Phat market are trying to cash out on the recent rise. In addition to that, I interpret it to mean that a lot of them must not feel that prices will stay where they are, at their current high levels. I'm known as Rich King Midas, and when you look at me, you'll see a king who knows a thing about his treasury. I never cared for women. I've never cared for wine. But when I count a large amount of money - ha ha - it's divine!

05-Jul-2020 03:09:59

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Trip180 said:
Midas,

For every seller, there's a buyer. If there were more sellers, then prices would be falling. Currently, prices are steady for phats.

White is weak, which suggests a lack of confidence in phats.

A future update could crash them. DXP would crash them. But will that happen? There was a strong dip, and then it bounced.


I have to disagree with the first bit you said. There is not always a buyer for every seller, especially in the partyhat market. I myself have spent well over a month, at times, trying to move a blue due to lack of buyers.

But you can easily have more sellers than buyers, in any market, and that doesn't necessarily translate to a decrease in price, especially if the sellers are stubborn and stuck to their prices.

I have observed many times, that when sellers miss a good opportunity to profit, they will opt to hold their phat rather than take a loss, thinking there will be similar opportunities in the future. Not often do I notice phat owners panic selling.

I think Shn's data definitely shows there are currently more partyhat sellers than buyers right at the moment, but that won't necessarily mean a crash or price decrease until, and only if, people become desperate to sell, and start competing their prices down.
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05-Jul-2020 19:05:58 - Last edited on 05-Jul-2020 19:20:13 by RichKngMidas

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Shn said:
RichKngMidas said:


I think Shn's data definitely shows there are currently more partyhat sellers than buyers right at the moment, but that won't necessarily mean a crash or price decrease until, and only if, people become desperate to sell, and start competing their prices down.


One thing I noticed today is that everyone, with the exception of one player, on the discontinued item trading (not discussion) forum is a mercher either buying or selling. Given how high ALL rares are (phats, lowers, etc) it makes me wonder how many players are priced out of the market. Almost every rare is at an all time record at the moment, or close. With how fast they've risen recently and how expensive rares are to begin with, I wonder if player's can afford to pay an extra 20% on their rares in just a month's time and if it will make a marked difference in demand.


I personally think the lowest valued traditional rares and cheaper tokens will end up the only discontinueds left with any bit of demand from average players, because as you say, a lot of average players are now priced out of these markets.

This is also one of the reasons I got out of the phats market recently and shifted my assets into other things, because their returns have been terrible the last three years. Phats are a great example of what happens when an item gets priced out of the market; you end up with a small minority of people trading amongst themselves, and they cannot keep up the high prices, because there is no new demand entering that market. Blue went from 29B in 2017 to 18B. It took three years to reach 29B again, hanging around the low 20s for long periods of time. I don't see much future for them aside from stable prices. Whereas cheaper items like a Santa hat have more room to grow, and higher potential return, as a percentage.
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06-Jul-2020 00:53:20 - Last edited on 06-Jul-2020 01:16:19 by RichKngMidas

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Joe Bill64 said:
Green maak selling at 7-9m in 07-8 just before limit. 10m at the time was crazy but 700-750 now, not crazy? Things are intetesting, imo.


Actually, all the hweens are pretty cheap right now, relatively speaking, and compared to the rest of the market, especially if you look at their historical ratios, which do still have some meaning. In 2010, like I mentioned, a Green mask was worth about a santa hat. And 16 of them would have bought you a blue partyhat! Now to buy a blue you would need about 50 greens and a santa is worth about two of them.

All the hweens are really undervalued right now, imo. They're very rare. Just don't have the market demand yet.
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06-Jul-2020 14:04:04 - Last edited on 06-Jul-2020 16:17:42 by RichKngMidas

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@ shn

In 2016-2017, you had massive growth for these items and only a slight correction, but for the most part the prices stuck. Only phats had major crashes and weren't able to maintain those prices. Hweens, for example, from 2016-17 experienced about a 128% growth in three months time. They shed 18% of their growth, four months later, and kept those new prices, at a stable 110% up from its 2016 price for the next 4 years, until, of course this recent run, which has been relatively minor compared the 2017 parallel. Santa hats experienced even better performance, then and this time around.

I personally think these runs, for lowers, at least, will have a slight correction, but will mostly stick at maybe a 20% correction max. I also feel that their growth has at least another 50% to go, and is far from finished.

Phats ... idk. I feel like they will shed 30-40% or more and remain there for a bit, unless their owners band together and opt for mythological pricing, which is also a possibility, since its a very closed-off market anyway.

Edit: I would like to note that the run did begin a few weeks prior to any of the duping claims coming out. But I do agree that the impact of those claims furthur inflated these markets.
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06-Jul-2020 15:54:59 - Last edited on 06-Jul-2020 16:05:18 by RichKngMidas

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@ Shn


I guess we will have to wait and see what happens. You're right that the quicker the climb, generally speaking, the more likely you are to have a crash. Slow, steady rises are more likely to stick. But I think the 2017 example, at least for lowers, is pretty relevant, as well. They also shot up relatively quick. I will use masks as an exmaple. They reached a peak of 128% after a three month run, and only corrected around 18%, and stuck. The green hween, for example, stuck around the 430s-450s afterwards for years. It retained 110% of that rise from the low 200s.

This rise, if it follows the same trend, might not even be complete yet. Look at the green Hween. From 445 to 750 (current) is a 68.5% rise. If it followed the same style of rise in 2017, it could easily move to 1014M (128% up) and shed 18% and stablize around 934.5M for years after.

Of course there are a lot more variables at play now than in 2017, and doesn't appear to be a huge demand for masks from players. But still. Hweens, IMO, are a steal at these prices and ratios.

Green ween and easter egg were also on par a few days ago, for example. Historically, a green mask was always worth 1.8 easters.

All the weens appear super cheap rn. Not sure if I'll get some, because I'm still iffy on them. It all depends if players desire them. Easily the most undervalued and underappreciated rares, though.
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06-Jul-2020 19:09:36 - Last edited on 06-Jul-2020 20:41:13 by RichKngMidas

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King Noob X said:
Apparently we're getting real updates "soon." It seems prices have already stabilized.


Any mention of what updates in particular?
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06-Jul-2020 20:37:51

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Shn said:
RichKngMidas said:


All the weens appear super cheap rn. Not sure if I'll get some, because I'm still iffy on them. It all depends if players desire them. Easily the most undervalued and underappreciated rares, though.


I'm iffy on h'weens too. They'd only go up imo if some players were sinking their gold into them to inflate their prices for the purpose of dumping. H'weens never really had big rises that never went back down from what I can recall.


They definitely have potential; I mean, red hween used to be worth as much as a red phat at one point.

All the hweens are quite rare, too, compared to other rares. They're super underappreciated/undervalued. I used to say the same thing about half wines when they were worth about as much as a red ween, and now they're going for 7b+.
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06-Jul-2020 21:14:06 - Last edited on 06-Jul-2020 21:15:17 by RichKngMidas

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H3AD5H0T said:
@ Richkngmidas

i would like to point out the reason why it took you months to sell your blue was very obvious because i was there during that time and you were asking for almost 2b more then the selling price at the time...

i would just like to point that one out.

ty

like the thread to btw..


The 30B sale took less than a week actually. At that time I sold more than one blue, as well, just didn't report to item disc, which is why I am also a bit shocked their prices have seemed to stablize. I'm talking here about a couple years back. I was also selling at the "current" price then ... just no buyers. :@

And thanks. Me too. Lots of great people here with a lot of experience and many of them are very knowledgeable about this market. It's great being able to collect so much expertise in one thread!
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07-Jul-2020 00:45:02 - Last edited on 07-Jul-2020 00:49:26 by RichKngMidas

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War tortoise said:
your missing fish masks, christmas tree hats and the of seasons stuff, those are also rare items.

or by your logic remove christmas scythe and holly wreath as for those were technally from a TH/SOF related raffle event. same as the items I just listed.

I'm only saying this because jagex technally billed them as new rares, so they should be treated as such, but no they arn't yet technally wreath/scythes are.


Can you provide a link from a Jmod confirmaing that these items are actually considered officially rare, even though, something like Fish masks were directly won from SOF? The last I read is that any items won through TH/SOF, directly, will be brought back in time, and all previous promotions will return (even including ones like Gemerator, which have some tokens from that like the Gem Sack surpassing 10B currently).

I am simply following the same logic as Discontinued Items Status, but will definitely consider the idea if I can find the right sources.

Another motive of mine is that I also don't want to crowd the thread with all sorts of SOF/TH items/tokens that are sort of discontinued, because we'll end up with far too many different items being discussed.

I will be sure to provide a more detailed response when I come home from work later today.
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07-Jul-2020 15:33:56

RichKngMidas

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Hey guys.

I've quit Runescape. Please feel free to keep the thread going if you like, but I will no longer be operating it.

Have a great time.

Oh, and invest in masks ;)
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09-Jul-2020 22:59:08

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@ H Rassy

I will likely return someday, and my bank is positioned well for that, which is exciting.

But the reason for my departure is that I am taking on new responsibilities at my job, and I just will not have the time for RS, sadly. I am also dealing with some medical issues related to a military deployment a number of years ago, that I need to sort out.

It was definitely a fun experience returning to and playing RS again, which has always been my favorite, and most nostalgic video game, and hopefully I will have a period of time in the future where I will get to play again.

And you're right, no one truly ever quits Runescape. ^_^

Feel free to keep the thread going. I think it's an important thread for the community to have, and it would be a shame if it fizzled out.
I'm known as Rich King Midas, and when you look at me, you'll see a king who knows a thing about his treasury. I never cared for women. I've never cared for wine. But when I count a large amount of money - ha ha - it's divine!

11-Jul-2020 06:03:29 - Last edited on 11-Jul-2020 06:04:06 by RichKngMidas

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