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Shn

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RichKngMidas said:


Phats ... idk. I feel like they will shed 30-40% or more and remain there for a bit, unless their owners band together and opt for mythological pricing, which is also a possibility, since its a very closed-off market anyway.

Edit: I would like to note that the run did begin a few weeks prior to any of the duping claims coming out. But I do agree that the impact of those claims furthur inflated these markets.


Only reason why I think this year might be different is because in 2017 the phat price spiked. It went sharply up and sharply back down.

In this case however, there hasn't been a spike. For example, Blue shot up late May to maybe 30b, and peaked late June. It dropped back down to 28b for a few days, and over the last week climbed back up to 29b. The difference with 2017, like I mentioned, is that phats crashed after their peak within a day of peaking. We are not seeing that here. It was sharp peak that dipped slightly, then actually rebounded a bit and has flattened off.

White is super cheap right now (relative to other phats), h'masks are super cheap. I bought a BSH instead of masks though because I only log in a couple times a year and think they might crash later in the summer. BSH will probably be more stable imo.
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06-Jul-2020 16:52:50 - Last edited on 06-Jul-2020 17:54:22 by Shn

RichKngMidas

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@ Shn


I guess we will have to wait and see what happens. You're right that the quicker the climb, generally speaking, the more likely you are to have a crash. Slow, steady rises are more likely to stick. But I think the 2017 example, at least for lowers, is pretty relevant, as well. They also shot up relatively quick. I will use masks as an exmaple. They reached a peak of 128% after a three month run, and only corrected around 18%, and stuck. The green hween, for example, stuck around the 430s-450s afterwards for years. It retained 110% of that rise from the low 200s.

This rise, if it follows the same trend, might not even be complete yet. Look at the green Hween. From 445 to 750 (current) is a 68.5% rise. If it followed the same style of rise in 2017, it could easily move to 1014M (128% up) and shed 18% and stablize around 934.5M for years after.

Of course there are a lot more variables at play now than in 2017, and doesn't appear to be a huge demand for masks from players. But still. Hweens, IMO, are a steal at these prices and ratios.

Green ween and easter egg were also on par a few days ago, for example. Historically, a green mask was always worth 1.8 easters.

All the weens appear super cheap rn. Not sure if I'll get some, because I'm still iffy on them. It all depends if players desire them. Easily the most undervalued and underappreciated rares, though.
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06-Jul-2020 19:09:36 - Last edited on 06-Jul-2020 20:41:13 by RichKngMidas

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KingáNoobáX said:
Apparently we're getting real updates "soon." It seems prices have already stabilized.


Any mention of what updates in particular?
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06-Jul-2020 20:37:51

Shn

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RichKngMidas said:


All the weens appear super cheap rn. Not sure if I'll get some, because I'm still iffy on them. It all depends if players desire them. Easily the most undervalued and underappreciated rares, though.


I'm iffy on h'weens too. They'd only go up imo if some players were sinking their gold into them to inflate their prices for the purpose of dumping. H'weens never really had big rises that never went back down from what I can recall.
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06-Jul-2020 20:50:44

RichKngMidas

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Shn said:
RichKngMidas said:


All the weens appear super cheap rn. Not sure if I'll get some, because I'm still iffy on them. It all depends if players desire them. Easily the most undervalued and underappreciated rares, though.


I'm iffy on h'weens too. They'd only go up imo if some players were sinking their gold into them to inflate their prices for the purpose of dumping. H'weens never really had big rises that never went back down from what I can recall.


They definitely have potential; I mean, red hween used to be worth as much as a red phat at one point.

All the hweens are quite rare, too, compared to other rares. They're super underappreciated/undervalued. I used to say the same thing about half wines when they were worth about as much as a red ween, and now they're going for 7b+.
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06-Jul-2020 21:14:06 - Last edited on 06-Jul-2020 21:15:17 by RichKngMidas

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@ Richkngmidas

i would like to point out the reason why it took you months to sell your blue was very obvious because i was there during that time and you were asking for almost 2b more then the selling price at the time...

i would just like to point that one out.

ty

like the thread to btw..

06-Jul-2020 23:57:07

RichKngMidas

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H3AD5H0T said:
@ Richkngmidas

i would like to point out the reason why it took you months to sell your blue was very obvious because i was there during that time and you were asking for almost 2b more then the selling price at the time...

i would just like to point that one out.

ty

like the thread to btw..


The 30B sale took less than a week actually. At that time I sold more than one blue, as well, just didn't report to item disc, which is why I am also a bit shocked their prices have seemed to stablize. I'm talking here about a couple years back. I was also selling at the "current" price then ... just no buyers. :@

And thanks. Me too. Lots of great people here with a lot of experience and many of them are very knowledgeable about this market. It's great being able to collect so much expertise in one thread!
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07-Jul-2020 00:45:02 - Last edited on 07-Jul-2020 00:49:26 by RichKngMidas

Warátortoise
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your missing fish masks, christmas tree hats and the of seasons stuff, those are also rare items.

or by your logic remove christmas scythe and holly wreath as for those were technally from a TH/SOF related raffle event. same as the items I just listed.

I'm only saying this because jagex technally billed them as new rares, so they should be treated as such, but no they arn't yet technally wreath/scythes are.
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07-Jul-2020 06:52:56 - Last edited on 07-Jul-2020 06:54:28 by Warátortoise

RichKngMidas

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Warátortoise said:
your missing fish masks, christmas tree hats and the of seasons stuff, those are also rare items.

or by your logic remove christmas scythe and holly wreath as for those were technally from a TH/SOF related raffle event. same as the items I just listed.

I'm only saying this because jagex technally billed them as new rares, so they should be treated as such, but no they arn't yet technally wreath/scythes are.


Can you provide a link from a Jmod confirmaing that these items are actually considered officially rare, even though, something like Fish masks were directly won from SOF? The last I read is that any items won through TH/SOF, directly, will be brought back in time, and all previous promotions will return (even including ones like Gemerator, which have some tokens from that like the Gem Sack surpassing 10B currently).

I am simply following the same logic as Discontinued Items Status, but will definitely consider the idea if I can find the right sources.

Another motive of mine is that I also don't want to crowd the thread with all sorts of SOF/TH items/tokens that are sort of discontinued, because we'll end up with far too many different items being discussed.

I will be sure to provide a more detailed response when I come home from work later today.
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07-Jul-2020 15:33:56

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