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That looks wonderful Chrisso, thanks. :)
I like the 'W & F pixies' lol. Always fancied myself as a pixie!

Perhaps you could add a link to The WIT too? It could do with a bit of attention bringing its way if it's going to be a really useful resource for you guys.

I also like Sookie's suggestion of a mention of Forum Help, and what it's for. A link wouldn't work, unless you're going to update that weekly as the thread's refreshed, but you could mention where it is and its purpose? Someone unfamiliar with the forums needing mod help on a forum issue might well seek that in this forum or even on this thread I'm thinking.

Not sure about other threads from other forums, depends what they are really. What sort of things apart from Forum Help have those who mentioned that got in mind?
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08-Oct-2013 16:41:55 - Last edited on 08-Oct-2013 16:43:36 by Treemaid

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Mod Chrisso said:
Updated to include WIT and as close a static link to Forum Help as I can.

Chrisso, you're ninja! :D


*Pokes Loggy C* I see you lurking there! No lurking! Get yourself out into the light! :P
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08-Oct-2013 16:57:35

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Aeroxmaster said:
Looking good :)

Currently trying to imagine what the reskinned forums would look like. Not sure whether to just expect a different theme, or to also expect a bit of rearrangement in how all posts are shaped and where things are positioned - a change in the forums "framework" :P


Ooh! What's this Aeorox? We due for yet another forum reskin? I missed that. Where did you see that then? I hope the reskin will make it less visually fussy, not more so! And lighter! It's depressing spending too long in all this darkness! Lol

Windsofnight said:
errmygwd, the discussion thread has been downgraded...to...a...chat thread...

******

** no no, just the chat element has been made more explicit. Website and Forums folks have always been inclined towards meaty discussions and a leopard can't change its spots after all!

Sookie Lala said:
Tree, I was thinking these types of thread but they do need to be monitored by jmods.

tweeks and thingies

Ah right. I'm not sure. All the other links Chrisso has are very much Forum and Website related, and that seems appropriate for a W&F discussion thread. You could say that all threads about anything are forum related because they are in the forums I suppose, and include threads like that for that reason, but then where would you draw the line? The opening post would become more of a directory to everything, and I'm sure we've got player made directory threads out there somewhere already? I think I remember Mistii saying something about running a directory thread, might have been her at least...my memory! Lol

Cyanid said:
Hi Sookie :):):)

So Sookie gets a hi, and I don't huh? I see how it is! :P
he he
(Edited for errant apostrophe...naughty apostro'phe!)
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09-Oct-2013 07:53:27 - Last edited on 09-Oct-2013 07:55:13 by Treemaid

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Stoat King said:
"no no, just the chat element has been made more explicit. Website and Forums folks have always been inclined towards meaty discussions"

Not being rude Treemaid, but do you really think this is an appropriate place for your explicit chat?
Not everyone sees it as a natural way of expressing love like you do.


Oh! Oh! Oh! I actually spluttered out my cuppa reading that Stoat! Ha ha ha ha!
*wipes tea from monitor*
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09-Oct-2013 09:40:59

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Chrisso,
nice new FSRs! :D Now you can go redo the FSRs of all the other forums...got a few weeks to spare? Mwhahahaha!

Mistii,
'Hatred aid'? :o Let's hope I never come to that! Lol!

Ah, thought it was something to do with you and directories. Actually, I wasn't really talking about a directory for threads that are in this forum anyway, I meant for other 'significant' threads throughout the forums, such as the sticky in EGC that Sookie referenced for 'quick tweak' game suggestions. I wonder if anyone's got a directory going for those kinds of threads?


Winds,
well, I hope we don't lose the serious discussion element entirely. I don't think that will happen to be honest, because the inclinations of the individuals who frequent this forum generally seem to veer towards enjoying a meaty discussion.

Anyway, like Chrisso says, it's early days on this thread, and there's always a bit of an excited buzz when a new discussion/chat thread is posted. Let's give it a bit of time, and see how things pan out in the longer term? :)


Aeorox,
Ah! Will you be my new PA? lol. you seem to have your fingers on sorts of threads of scattered information! What a useful person you are! I wonder if they might slip in a few changes/new features too while they're fiddling about with the look of things. That would be nice. :D We've certainly been waiting for long enough!
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09-Oct-2013 20:41:21 - Last edited on 09-Oct-2013 20:42:15 by Treemaid

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Winds,

I personally think Sookie's right. This thread is never going to be as fast moving and 'chatty' as say the chat threads in General and Rants for example, because the forum isn't visited as much anyway.

As a matter of interest, since you first expressed concerns about the change of focus, you've had seven response posts from various people (eight, including this) about the topic you raised. Even though the thread's in its early 'buzz' stage, it hasn't been hard to follow that discussion, or to find the previous posts by others about it. I think that situation is likely to continue, and that's good, but I also think it's good that those who would just like to pop by for a brief friendly exchange with some names that they recognise from the W&F forums, can feel free to do that too.

You mentioned my post from the old W&F discussion thread made before this thread was posted, that Chrisso quoted on page one, post four. Yes you're quite right that I express there my belief in the value of what I believe to be the unique character of the old thread, a place where the forum 'thinkers' can get together and discuss ideas without their posts being drowned in minutes, but I also expressed a desire that it could be more of an accessible thread to those who simply wish to have exchanges with their fellow forumers on a more casual level. Looking at how this new thread has developed so far, I think that balance is turning out to be just about right. Again though, it's early to tell, but no sense worrying too much before there's even a problem I'd have thought? :)

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10-Oct-2013 09:14:34

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I do actually think that there is value too in those short, bantery types of posts, but for different reasons. They help to promote a sense of belonging, of community, and of being accepted whatever a person's style of posting is.

You know me, I sometimes take a whole post to say what I could have said in a couple of sentences (I'm working on that! Lol) and often get teased in a good natured way for that, which I don't mind at all. It's all about diversity really. We don't all have the same style of posting, or like to go into great depth of detail about certain issues. Some do, some don't. If we can let others know that the W&F forums are for all, not just the 'thinkers', that's got to be a good thing. We'll get a better representation of views from all of those who use the forums then and perhaps even encourage some new faces into W&F, because people won't feel obliged to have to write an essay to get their views across.

I'm actually laughing at myself as I'm writing this; it's ironic that my reply to you has turned more into an essay, ay? lol
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10-Oct-2013 09:15:36

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Windsofnight said:
@Tree... There is nothing wrong with trying to increase traffic to a slow forum but based on forum statistics, it would appear to be a long shot to think that a slow forum would be able to host a viable chat thread that would increase traffic to the forum though.

Well who knows? Worth a shot I'd say and nothing lost by trying it out, so far at least. :)


Windsofnight said:
To see only an increase in posts to just 'one' thread within the forum would not produce the desired effect of showing an increased traffic flow to the forum.

Maybe not. Hard to say. But if some are tempted to W&F to check out the chat thread, they may well cast their eyes over some other threads while they're at it I suppose, especially if they see some familiar names they recognise from the chat thread have posted.
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12-Oct-2013 17:07:07

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Windsofnight said:
However, as noted within the content of chat threads the 'feeling' of belonging & community tends to exclusive rather than promoting that 'feeling' of belonging & community outward to new users who visit those types of threads. In some cases a chat thread is used more like a exclusive clan thread rather than a chat thread, which of course, would not be the purpose or design the chat thread.


I suppose a lot might depend on how the individual perceives it. When you see a group of people interacting who obviously know each other but do not know you, that could be seen either as an opportunity to get to know those people yourself and to discover a specific niche where you can feel that you do belong, or you can view those people as 'a clique' who would not want to take the time or trouble to welcome newcomers into their midst.

I've got to say though, I've not really been involved in any other chat thread for quite a long time, but when I have dipped my toes in now and then, I've not had the impression that my comments weren't welcome. Doesn't mean to say you're not right though, perhaps some chat threads are 'cliquey', or rather, some individuals who use those threads may try to steer it that way at least, but they don't need to be simply because they are chat threads. Personally, I have higher hopes for this thread and those who might frequent it, both currently and in the future. It's up to those who use it to make sure it stays open and welcoming, and if that's the attitude of the majority who do, I don't see a problem arising.
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12-Oct-2013 17:08:54 - Last edited on 12-Oct-2013 17:15:31 by Treemaid

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Windsofnight said:
I guess we could try to set a time when we both are on so you can practice writing stuff like chit-type banter consisting of one or two lines. Heck, I'll even create a forum signature with four line lines of squigglyness if you think that might help. ;)

Four lines of squigglyness? Saints preserve us! Lol
I shall start my practice in the post below, give me marks out of 10 for chitchattyness please! :D
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12-Oct-2013 17:10:01

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Cyanide,
well, I hope you don't feel excluded here! :)
I do wonder though, if some might be feeling excluded just because no one has specifically replied to them. Often a post doesn't really seem to require a specific reply, even though it still contributes something. Unless someone actually says 'go away, you're not welcome here', it might be hard to know.

Calm,
I can't say that I've noticed that myself.

Winds,
I think your one line responses all in one post still count! :D

Valy,
I'm afraid there is nothing that can be done from the forums to get an account unbanned. You've already followed the correct procedure if you think you were unfairly banned by sending in your appeal, and that will be considered. (By the way, Mod Chrisso's job is breaking mending the website, Customer Support isn't his responsibility.)

Sim,
there's a section in the 'submit a bug report' option from the 'support' drop down menu, top right, for reporting mistakes in wording too. You could try that if you haven't already? :)
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14-Oct-2013 18:03:53

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Mod Chrisso said:
...To everyone else: I've just put a 'No grave bumping' rule in the FSR to stop old threads being recycled without need. It's nice to keep the relevant threads at the top. :]


I've got to say, I have reservations about the 'no grave bumping' addition too, without a little more detail to explain it.

Some threads stay relevant and of value even when they slip down the pages for whatever reason. As Sookie said, we're encouraged to use the search for a thread on a specific topic and post on that thread, rather than make a new thread about the same thing; the pre-existing thread may well be a fair way down the pages. It's still better to do that than to create a new one though.

To give an example, there's a thread here, promoting a popular idea that has also been suggested many times by others elsewhere. It incorporates many suggestions for improvements to the initial idea made by others too, so it's not only valuable to stop other threads being made about the same thing, but because it has developed over time incorporating the contributions of others to make the initial idea workable. That thread does tend to slip down the pages as the OP is no longer active, but personally I think it's still worth keeping alive for such a time when it might actually be considered for implementation. I realise that's not the sort of thread that led you to add the no grave bumping rule, but I do think that rule is too general as it is. If you feel it's really important for it to be there, could you explain further so that people aren't put off from posting on good threads just because they're not in the first few pages?

How about making it a little more flexible, something like:

'Make sure to check threads for relevancy before bumping them. Threads that discuss issues that are no longer relevant or that are replicated on more active threads, should not be bumped.'

What do others think?
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17-Oct-2013 21:17:52

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Winds,
I'm not quite sure what you mean by 'niche specific'. I mean, chat threads are meant to have at least some relation to the forum in which they're posted I'm thinking. You could call the umbrella category of each chat thread a 'niche' I guess. That's not a bad thing I think, it just means there's some common theme or interest that pulls together the posts on that thread and those who make them. That doesn't necessarily force them to be exclusive of newcomers who share that interest I would have thought, though of course a lot depends on the attitudes of the individuals who use them.

After all, we do have a nice comparison (of similar content posted by two different authors) contained within the contents of this new thread with one post comments appearing to be 'welcome' while the other post comments were not.”

We do? I missed that.



Mistii! Hi! :D
Glad you're back on the scene again and on the mend too!

[[This will probably be posted on a few threads hehe]]

So, starting off as you mean to continue ay? Spammer! :P Heh heh heh
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17-Oct-2013 21:39:13

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Mod Chrisso said:
With regards to using the search term to see if a thread already exists, that is to look for a thread to see if your question is answered already. The problem with using a 3 month old thread (which hasn't been posted on for as long) is that a lot of the original issues won't be relevant, particularly here.

If a thread is still relevant it's not grave bumping, if it's just being 'bumped' to keep Chewy from eating it even though the discussion has ended, that's just taking up valuable space for more relevant threads.

To be honest if there's a thread which hasn't been posted on for 3 months, it probably isn't going to have any discussion left in it.


Hmm, the thing is, a thread's value isn't necessarily in its potential for further discussion. Sometimes it might be as a reference for useful information and once that's slipped down a few pages, it can be easy to forget that resource is there, unless it's bumped.

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20-Oct-2013 20:56:36

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It could also be when a suggestion has been made, and through much discussion, further refined to be a strong and workable idea that the community would like to see happen. Most of the discussion would already have taken place to get it where it is, people have already made the contributions to the suggestion that they wish to make and are happy where things stand, but the suggestion itself along with all the possible details for implementation is still one that the community would like to see implemented and would like to keep before the eyes of the web devs for that reason. To just let it die after all that input would be a shocking waste, unless it got a gold post saying either that the suggestion had been noted/considered or it was impossible that it could be implemented at any time, in which case its purpose would have been fulfilled. The thread is still relevant until its purpose is achieved, but it could well slip quite a long way down the pages in between bumps. I'm thinking of one particular thread, but the situation is one that can be applied to others too.


So currently, we have:

Please do not grave bump threads - if no-one has posted on a thread for a long time, the discussion has likely run its course or been answered elsewhere.

Could the emphasis perhaps be put on relevancy, rather than discussion value? That would allow for the two types of threads I have mentioned above to still be bumped for as long as they were still relevant.

Something like:
Please do not to bump older threads without good reason (grave bumping). Make sure threads are still useful and relevant before bumping them.

That's a bit closer to what you currently have Chrisso than what I suggested before. It would still stop people bumping just for the sake of it, but allow the older though still relevant and useful threads to continue without people being afraid of being accused of 'grave bumping'.
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20-Oct-2013 20:58:06

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Anyway, I'm away for a few days from tomorrow so probably won't be around on the forums or in game during that time. Keep it nice n cosy in here for when I get back will ya? I shall expect a roaring fire, toasted crumpets and a mug of hot chocolate ready and waiting for me. The forecast is dark clouds or rain all week, so I'll need it!

Oh, and Cyanide, guess I'll have to forgive you then :P lol
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20-Oct-2013 21:03:57

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Windsofnight said:


One of the issues with providing a list of recommended threads or directing other forum users to use certain threads to post their feedback on via either a link or qfc's is that sometimes those links and qfc's are not updated and end up being to threads that are no longer available or are no longer being used. This occurs on both Jagex and player written sticky threads...

T.- • Please take clan forums suggestions or forum organisation, rules, or policies to the WAFD at QFC 278-279-196-63253759. QFC invalid.


Ah! Thanks for that reminder Winds. I've updated that one now. Any time you do notice any out of date information like that again, I'm sure most OPs would be very grateful if you could give them a poke on their threads about it as a reminder, I know I would! I rely heavily on the community to support what's happening on The FIT, which helps to compensate for my own inadequacies! lol
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29-Oct-2013 12:27:59

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I'm glad too Sookie, well done you for keeping that banner flying!

I do hope though with all the excitement with somewhere to support new players, they don't lose sight of the need to provide a non-threatening environment for new forum users too. New players and new forum users are not always the same thing, in fact, I think they rarely are. You've got to have a considerable investment in the game in terms of time and commitment before you feel it's worth giving your feedback on it or trying to influence how it goes in some way. That's been my own experience at least.

As a new player, it didn't really occur to me to try to find answers to game related questions on the forums either, strangely. I tended to seek out others in game for answers to my nooby questions. In fact, that's still usually my first approach come to think of it, lol.
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29-Oct-2013 20:20:56

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Sookie Lala said:
Yes, I was going to see exactly what he had in mind before I said anything but it does sound like they are going to lump the whole new players and new forum users together. Didn't want to scare them off though. lol

Ooh, scare them off?! Good point! Maybe I shouldn't have said what I just did on your thread Sookie, lol. Still, I don't think I'm that scarey in general. My scaring level is still 1.
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29-Oct-2013 20:24:33

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Sookie Lala said:
No it's fine. Coming from you wont scare them off. It was just that the other mod said he was going to bring it up to some others then he must have changed his mind and went to Mod Matthe who is in charge of helping new players. Maybe it's because I was too strong in my post, I dunno. I get over excited I think lol.


I dunno, when I read Mod Infinity's second (I think) comment, I just wondered if he'd got the wrong end of the stick and been confusing your proposal for a section for new forum users with a section for new players. Who can say? *shrugs*
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29-Oct-2013 20:30:45

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J4ron said:
^Maybe have a section for both ;) one for new players/ a place to ask questions. One for new forum users to get used to things.

Both sections would have to have a heavy Mod presence (whether it be F or J Mod) to prevent trolls scaring them away...


That could work. :)
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29-Oct-2013 20:55:52

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[#8H61NVN5U] said:
*pulls up a chair*
*relaxes*

*reads thread*

(will edit in things tomorrow, when I've finished reading; I was very supprised that it is only 18 pages, I was expecting to have to read through a few 100 :p. I have been directed here to discuss a few things, though I may be making my own thread about them, if I have time.)


I think one of the good things about this thread that makes it worthwhile throwing out general forum/website related ideas here to get a quick flavour of possible responses to them, is actually because it is relatively slow moving. I like that personally. We can chill here and have a bit of fun, but there's always the possibility to get our teeth into something a little more meaty too without our posts being lost pages back in an just an hour or so. It's especially useful if you're thinking about whether or not it's worth posting and maintaining a thread specifically for the topic you'd like to discuss. You can throw out the basis of an idea here, get some responses, then decide if it's worth going into more detail by posting a new thread.
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05-Nov-2013 10:18:19

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Yay! Well done Mistii!

Winds, that's interesting! I wouldn't have expected W&F to be up there in popularity so close to forums like Rants and RGU. I'm not surprised General's way ahead though.
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13-Nov-2013 08:44:43

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Kay said:
I had a suggestion for forums.

Possibly when logged into forums it integrates with your "ignore list" so the posts by people on your ignore list are "hidden" similar to when a F-mod or a J-mod hides posts. You can see that the person made a post but it will say "this message has been hidden". Not sure if possible but would be a very cool idea and probably stop a lot of drama on forums :)

-Kay

I'm in two minds about that myself. You're right that it might prevent some forums drama, particularly on clan threads and the like, but then again, it would make following some conversations on other threads tricky if that forumer was an active poster. I think too that being able to see when someone has stepped over the mark is important. If many forumers had the same person on their ignore list and that person's posts hidden from their view, it would lessen the chances of any rule-breaking posts by that person being reported on Forum Help and dealt with. I think on the whole, I'd rather we didn't have that.
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02-Dec-2013 10:51:53

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Windsofnight said:
I just saw a post on another thread where they were discussing the upcoming VIP badges & one individual asked why Fmods didn't have the member badge & an individual posted back (on green) that it was because (paraphrase) the web developers refuse to make room for the member badge to show & it is a easy fix to do but Jagex just won't do it.

Then I see the member badge showing for the Fmods. I was thinking, gosh, I guess wishes do come true.

;)


Lol, ironic, huh?

On a purely selfish level, well, I'm finding having to sport that date and badge a bit of a shock! I wish I didn't have it, but then again, I wish no one had to have it. If all regular forumers have got to have it though, I grudgingly agree that it's better for Fmods to have it too, for the sake of fairness. It's going to take me a while to get used to it though, horrid thing that it is! *sighs deeply*

On a similar note, I'm really really not looking forward to all this 'VIP badge' lark on the forums (or in game for that matter). Makes me sad the way things are going. :(
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02-Dec-2013 17:58:59

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Something I'd like to know, if anyone with premier can answer it for me...

If you toggle off the badge in game, does it toggle off on the forums too?

Or,

Is there an independent way of toggling them each off?

Or,

Can you only toggle it off in game, not on the forums?
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03-Dec-2013 22:00:57

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^ Rooh's answered this for me now on another thread. Looks like having the chat badge toggled off in game, does not toggle it off on the forums, and there's no other way of turning off the badge on the forums once you have purchased premier membership. :/

What happened to privacy?


Windsofnight said:
Lolz, my bad, my guess was thinking more in line with the the actual meaning of VIP in relationship to something that would stand out indicating a Very Important Person.

So was I. Glad it's not! Lessens the potential problems with such a feature at least.
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04-Dec-2013 12:46:19 - Last edited on 04-Dec-2013 12:49:41 by Treemaid

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Great to see that ay Simbaha? Though I do hope that the next improvements will be ones that have a greater impact on the forum using experience. There are so many great ideas that have been suggested, and so few implemented. Mustn't complain though, every little helps. :) AKA: Arbr**** Vie
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04-Dec-2013 22:18:37

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Hi Winds,

Yes, it is a privacy issue to me. I was specifically talking about the premier members' badge though, not just the one indicating when your last subscription was (though I have reasons to dislike that too). If I decide to purchase premier membership, I'd like to be able to decide myself who, if anyone, I choose to make aware of that. I don't want the whole world to know that, whether I want them to or not. Why should they? It's no one else's business which members' package I choose to buy, so why should that information about my private transactions with Jagex be made public?

Regarding the method of hiding the badge that has been posted by some, that only hides it on your own view of the forums. Everyone else can still see your badge and of course everyone elses' badge too, so that solves nothing except reducing the visual clutter for the individual who does that, which is very minor advantage and certainly not the main issue for me. I'd want to be able to hide my premier badge to everyone. No point hiding it from myself when I already know it's there after all.
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05-Dec-2013 15:25:59

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I would say that as a consumer you made your choice at the time of purchase.


Well, yes, if I buy the package, at least now I will do so knowing what unwanted 'perks' I'll have to put up with. In a sense you're right that would be making a choice, but it would only be that I'd decided the other benefits of the package outweighed the disadvantage of the sacrifice of privacy for me. Buying with my eyes open however, shouldn't mean that I forgo the right to express what I'd like to see in terms of improvements on the deal, in this case, a toggleable forums badge, though it does of course take away any purchasing power I might otherwise have had to achieve that end as a potential rather than an actual purchaser.

It wasn't initially clear before buying the package whether the forums badge would be toggleable though. At least it wasn't clear in any of the official information from Jagex that I had read about in advance. That only became apparent as people bought it, found out themselves, and told others. Personally I find it strange that premier members are permitted to preserve their privacy in game with a toggleable chat badge, and yet not granted the same privacy on the forums. But hey, life doesn't always make sense, huh?

Another thought regarding privacy, even if someone chooses not to buy premier, the fact that the badges are untoggleable still affects their privacy too. Not in such a significant way perhaps, but alongside some players who would not wish it to be known that they've purchased premier, might there not also be some who don't necessarily want to shout that they've bought an 'inferior' package?

Oops, I didn't mean to go into lengthly discussions about the badge on this thread. You have a knack of luring me into that Winds. :P lol
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05-Dec-2013 19:41:03

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Oh! Oh!!!!!!!!!!!!! I see snowflakes too! They're beeeeutiful! :D
*Waves at Chrisso* Did you do dat? :P


Oh, and this:

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Hey all,

Quoting should now be fixed and not escaping anymore characters along with fixing a security issue with the quote button :)
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13-Dec-2013 11:20:56

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Someone pointed this out, I'd missed, it, so thought I'd share it here for others who may have missed it too. I can't pretend to understand all that techie talk, but I'm sure some of you can so I'll quote it in full for those that do. The bit that jumped out at me though was:

The truth of the matter is we hope to redo the forums in the New Year which means cleaner, more maintainable code that takes progressive enhancement into consideration.

Yes, I know we've heard it all before, but what the heck! A new year approaches and I'd rather hope than despair if I have any choice in it! Lol

Anyway, quote below, didn't have enough room left there to squeeze in my comments too.
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13-Dec-2013 22:28:13

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Nexus / Blasty,

It's good to see people interested in development techniques, I don't usually get involved in the forums but I'm happy to get stuck in when it's development related ;)

The code base for the forums is old, and old code is never good. It was written long before I became a Mod and so now I am part of the team which is looking to improve the website by building all new pages with improved functionality and usability, check out the new responsive splash pages for example.

With regards to this forum issue, I completely agree - it's silly to duplicate the content of the message, you could simply grab the original and parse that. Also personally I would have looked at server side but as you suggest, previewing the message would have been heavy on the server. It would be worth investigating both methods and see which performs better.

The truth of the matter is we hope to redo the forums in the New Year which means cleaner, more maintainable code that takes progressive enhancement into consideration. Whilst these old forums are still running we have to weigh up if it warrants us spending hours trying to update the existing messy code base to redo how it functions or whether we just employ a quick fix to resolve the problem at hand and save development resource for the bigger projects that are coming up. On this occasion we went for the quick fix to resolve the issue as quickly as possible.

I hope that clears up why we took the decision we did but I agree with you both completely – there are far better ways to handle bits of forum functionality and we will make sure we get it right with future updates :)

Thanks,

Mod Ernizr.
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13-Dec-2013 22:28:29

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^ Yeh, it's great to see more feedback from the Jmods, isn't it!

And since Mod Infinity's confirmed Chrisso's leaving, I guess I'm allowed to publicly join in with your own well wishes for him in the future! He's been one of the most active Jmods I've seen on the forums through all his changes of team and one that's really engaged with the community 'where we're at'. I'm very sad he's going, but I'm sure it's a positive thing for him; there's always a silver lining, ay?

Thank you Mod Chrisso for all you've done, and particularly for your interactions in this forum and with the Rants community. You're a star, and I'm sure you will continue to be one wherever you go!


Regarding a new thread, funnily enough I had a discussion about that in game very recently. Personally, I don't think it's necessary. We've hardly started this one after all. It's not the identity of the first Jmod to make the thread that really matters I feel, it's the community who use it, and we're still here. :) That's just my take on it though. :)
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14-Dec-2013 10:15:36

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"On page one of this thread you can find this comment; 'Well, why not, it would be good to have an OP who's actually still with Jagex, if nothing else!'."

Lol, how tactful of you not to point out that it was actually me who said that. :P *chuckles*

Well, as I said, personally I don't think it needs it yet, but I'd be fine if a Jmod wanted to take it upon themselves to do a refresh, up to them really. Chat threads are a bit different from other Jmod instigated threads in my opinion, since it's not primarily the creator of the first post you're relating to or hoping will respond or action any requests. The purpose is primarily for members of the community to relate to each other. If the OP or any other Jmod drops by too, that's great, but not essential or expected.

But yeh, no strong feelings one way or the other. I don't think it's urgent at least. :P
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15-Dec-2013 09:11:27

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Goodbye Mod Chrisso, and hello Bacon! Welcome to the green team!

Out of the frying pan and into the fire huh? I'm sure you'll keep things sizzling hot as ever in W&F in your green capacity. I can't see you getting ham sick for your old gold ways and streakying back with your curly tail between your legs!

He he he, oh revenge is such sweet joy! Roll on the bacon puns!

All,
Chrisso's quitting farewell thread here. Winds and Mistii, you should go take a look. :D
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21-Dec-2013 13:13:20

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Lovely to see you whenever you are able Kval, sounds like you're having a very busy time! I'm sure everyone understands that sometimes the demands of real life take over, and it's right that it should be that way.

I've been taking an unofficial break from the forums over the Christmas period too, to stop me spending time on them which should be spent with my family. I need to get back into the swing of things soon though, or I'll have forgotten what's what! lol

Oh, and happy new year everyone!
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Just wanted to give a shout out to welcome Accomplishes back to the forums!

If you're reading this Accomplishes, you've been greatly missed and it's really good to know that you're still around.
I hope your busy life gives you a few opportunities to drop by here now and then and keep in touch with us all.
All the best!

Oh, and what do you think of this shiney new thread? :D Well, comparatively new at least. lol
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04-Jan-2014 21:24:43

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An interesting change in how players are to report forum related stuff on this thread in General. I see it's a temporary measure. Makes me wonder what the plans are for the highlight long term - exciting stuff ay? AKA: Arbr**** Vie
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07-Jan-2014 18:41:23

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Finance said:
Somehow, I don't think I would describe the highlight system as 'exciting...' :P

I am, however, glad that Jagex is taking a more active interest in the management of the forums.

Well, it's more the anticipation that's exciting, but then I'm easily excited. I'll let you know if I'm still excited when we find out what happens in the longer term. :P lol

And yes, I too am encouraged by the more hands on involvement in forum management we're seeing. I used to get the feeling that the forums were just a forgotten backwater and that focus the had mainly moved on to Twitter and Facebook.
It's good to know we've not been entirely pushed to the sidelines here!
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08-Jan-2014 09:15:17

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Jecaieca,
and you too!

Accomplishes,
yeh, it's great to have some new green blood! Yummy! Lol

Fandalos,
There's a thread here on that very issue that might interest you. :)


And on another note, I just went F2P a couple of hours ago. I wonder how long my avatar will last this time. I'll be glad to lose the members' badge and date thingy at least when it goes.
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16-Jan-2014 21:28:53

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Lol, so have I if I'm honest. Apart from the addition of green skin a couple of years ago, and the occasional extended periods in f2p, I've never changed my avatar. I sort of like the idea that a person's post can be instantly recognised just by glancing at their avatar. It's just a shame that we can't all have the benefit of being able to recognise individuals who happen to be free players the same way. I can't really understand the 'members perk' mentality when it comes to forum avatars, since avatars for all, would benefit all users of the forums, members included.
But hey. *Shugs*
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17-Jan-2014 08:46:49

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Miss Misty said:
*shugs back* hehe sounds like a quiet cuddle!

I agree, I know mouldy skin green skin and birds nest feather hat on top of the avatar's head means Treemaid, it helps everyone.

I mean it would hardly make people buy membership just for a forum avatar, and it isn't a big bonus :o


Oh yeh, I am back from being ill by the way! :P

Misty Fuzzy


I saw dat 'mouldy green' and 'bird's nest'! - cheeky monkey! lol
Good to have you back though Misty and to hear you're on the mend, I was beginning to wonder if Accomplishes had started a disappearance trend! I hope the 'fuzzy' in your new name doesn't indicate the state of your mind after your illness? :P
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17-Jan-2014 15:22:05

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Didn't I tell you the cost of a treemaid poke is one blue phat Accomplishes? You owe me! Oh, and Misty says thank you in advance for paying for her poke too.
*evil grin*
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18-Jan-2014 21:42:59

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Always a pleasure to chat to you Misty Mind Fuzzy. :P


Whos Dr,
that all sounds very clever. Unless I've misunderstood though, it's not really fully automatic is it? It still needs your personal input in each report to type in what the problem is, right? I can't see anyone really minding about that since it's for a legitimate purpose, but then I could be wrong since I don't understand all these extensions and things! Mind you, if someone used the same extension for true spamming, that would be a problem!

So, do you have to change it every week with the new QFC code for Forum Help or something?
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20-Jan-2014 07:36:19

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So what do you think of the new 'Welcome to the Forums' forum then? It's buzzing already, but mainly from experienced forumers so far. It's early days I know, but I do hope we'll see some posts and questions from those newer to the forums soon too. Mind you, a lot of the info there is likely to be useful to read without newer players feeling they need to post there I guess. AKA: Arbr**** Vie
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24-Jan-2014 12:46:34

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Hey Rachel :)

Well ideally, the Welcome to the Forums section should just be for forums related questions, though if someone is obviously new and asks a question that might better be asked in another forum, hopefully they'll be unlikely to be slammed down with an immediate lock for asking, but a more gentle approach may be taken than would perhaps be taken with an experienced forumer who could be expected to know better.

Yes, some newcomers will go straight to the forum they think best as you suggest they might, then leave. Others may wish to ask for guidance about the best forum to post their question in and the Welcome forum fills that need. I see that's started to happen already on the chat thread, which is encouraging. Or, they may come to the forums initially for a specific purpose, notice the 'Welcome to the Forums' section and have a browse there first, hopefully picking up some useful forums related information and guidance while reading there.

I don't think that the majority of old handers who have posted there so far, are posting just because they are bored. I see a group of experienced forumers developing there who are genuinely keen on getting involved as much as they can in creating a friendly, relaxed environment where new forumers can feel welcome and confident enough to ask their questions without getting slammed down.

Funny how people can look at the same thing and perceive it so differently sometimes, ay? :)


Misty,
I agree, I think a reference to the Guides forum in the list in the 'Handy Forum Index' thread, would be helpful too.
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29-Jan-2014 13:02:30

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Hey Nat,
I wonder if I could trouble you to tweak the wording of your edit there please? It's just that it could well come across to some that a post has been hidden with no moderator explanation or even wrongly hidden, especially to those who may have read the original non-rulebreaking post (“Fmod abooose!” you know, lol) and I'm sure that wasn't your intention! :)
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07-Feb-2014 20:06:22

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Finance said:
BRB MODERATION REVIEW THREAD

Jk :P


Chuckling. :P

And hi Dib! I'm just here while shovellling down my breakfast as quickly as possible. Gotta go to a meeting soon *sighs*.
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08-Feb-2014 09:22:15

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Gah! Computer problems! Had to do a reset to the manufacturer's settings and now it's taking forever to get it set up again the way I like it with the programs I need and all. Doesn't help that the bloomin' old thing keeps overheating and closing down on me. Might not be on the forums much in the next few days until I get it all sorted. :/ AKA: Arbr**** Vie
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11-Feb-2014 09:35:45

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^ Yeh it's a laptop. It's probably my fault for never having done the compressed air thingy on it, though I have attacked it with a hoover. I've just been browsing videos on how to disassemble it and clean out dust and crud manually, but that's going to be a last resort for me, it looks really scary! And yeh, I put ice packs under mine regularly! I'm a little worried by the condensed water that gathers on them though, so I keep giving them a wipe down. Perhaps I should just do as you suggest, though I'll try getting one of those compressed air thingies first. AKA: Arbr**** Vie
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11-Feb-2014 16:22:58

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Yus, good tip about the screws, that!
I did try taking a few covers off, and hoovering what I could see, (which wasn't a great deal). I wasn't brave enough to start removing inside bits like the guy on the video I was watching did though. I did that before your helpful tip, and left the screws in their holes on the casing, but yeh, would have been safer if I'd done it on a tray or something, they're so tiny!
Your story about the mic and the puppy made me laugh by the way. :P

Finance said:

@Treemaid: are you going to have a party for your 10,000th post? :O

You know, I didn't even realise I was close until I read that, lol.
But no, I'm not. To be honest, I'm not a great fan of post count glorification (you've no doubt heard me moan on about similar issues relating to features that have the potential to promote elitist attitudes on the forums). Post counts are useful to see sometimes if you need to know if a forum user is new to judge how to gauge a reply, but apart from that, I don't see them serving any useful purpose and personally would rather not have them at all. A post count cut off point at say, 500 posts, would make me very happy. :P
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12-Feb-2014 12:29:36

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Hi all
I'd really appreciate some community feedback on the future of 'The Forum Improvements Thread' if anyone's happy to do that. I'm considering the possibility that it's served its purpose now, but since it's always been a thread for the use of the community, I think the forum using community should have a voice in deciding its future.

(See my post on p419 post 3 of The FIT for further details)

All feedback on The FIT please! :)
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01-Mar-2014 09:09:26

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Finance said:
^ Grats on your 10,000th post :P

Oh yeh! Didn't see that happening! Lol

King Doctor said:

btw your thread forum improvements is too lenthy for mortals,, i dont think we can get a tldr on such inovations


Lol, well let's hope the Web Devs are immortal then, or all our forum hopes and dreams are dashed!

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Does anybody call you "Plishes"? I kinda like that...

:@ :@ :@


He he, Plishes is so lovely, it's soft and friendly like the sound summer rain makes as it falls in a pond. Sorry, I'm away with the fairies again.
*Wanders off aimlessly muttering 'plishes, plishes' under her breath*
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04-Mar-2014 12:07:49

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Just wanted to give you a welcome to the forums Granny (and more specifically, to this thread). I do hope that problem gets sorted for you soon!
Speaking of welcomes to the forums, assuming you're really quite new around here and not just on an alt, you might like to take a peek at the 'Welcome to the Forums' forum. There's a thread there for introducing yourself, a chat thread, and loads of guides and tips on using various aspects of the forums. It would be lovely to think that you might hang around after your problem is solved! :D

Gah, taking me ages to type. My monitor's broken and I'm now on a teeny weeny lapboard now with a teeny weeny keyboard that my touch type fingers don't like at all! You'd laugh is you could see the number of typos I'm making before correction. Actually, you'd be more likely to report me for spamming, since it would largely be gibberish!
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10-Mar-2014 08:50:53

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Granny Gnome said:

...Hi Tree,
How lovely of you to say! :)
Thanks. I am actually on an alt, and you do know me fairly well.

Sorry about your monitor. Hope it is fixed soon.


Ooh, now I'm really curious! :P lol

Got my shiney new monitor yesterday! My fingers are flying free again! :D
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King Doctor said:
why cant i read my own post after it got hidden ?
i dont get offended by something i put there myself lol


I've always wondered that too. Sometimes it would be useful to see your own post on threads that are on autohide for example, and as you point out, if it was rulebreaking anyway, it's not going to harm the person who wrote it to see it.
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14-Mar-2014 14:57:16

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Finance said:
Would also be useful if we could edit autohidden posts.

However, as with most things, I suspect this is harder than it seems. The forums may not be able to easily distinguish the group of "all regular posters" from "yourself" in regards to regular posts.


True that. One can't help but dream!
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16-Mar-2014 13:09:20

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Well, I've heard whispers about not there not being enough Fmods for ages. Looks like the CM team have listened! I'm looking forward to meeting a host of new team mates very soon! Go for it guys! :D

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01-Apr-2014 08:32:40

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Well, I've heard whispers about not there not being enough Fmods for ages. Looks like the CM team have listened! I'm looking forward to meeting a host of new team mates very soon! Go for it guys! :D

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Oops, soz, not sure how I did that quote double post! lol
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Finance said:
^ Such a forum troll </3

What can I say? I try hard to repress it, but every so often the inner troll must have its way. ^.-

Wilf said:
There are enough mods listed just not enough active ones imo. Occasionally I see a mod an I think they are new/ not seen them for a while check profile oh not posted for a few months month to a year, but what can you do. Lurking isn't a viable excuse either.

I remember talk of some being J mod's accounts as well but can't recall official confirmation only going off peoples words who are friendly with mods in fc's etc.

Well, I don't know if I'm 'official' enough to confirm it, but I can tell you that there are indeed Jmod choobs on the fmod list. I guess they're there in case there's some sort of forum emergency while they're at home (and hence not able to access their Jmod accounts). Also, some of those apparently inactive accounts are for Fmods who are active on the other language forums. Their posts on those forums will not show up on their profiles on the English language forums. There was a sweep of genuinely inactive Fmod accounts fairly recently actually.
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02-Apr-2014 19:38:54

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I don't know, poll or no poll, I've come to the stage now that I'm starting to doubt if the forums will ever get to the top of the list of priorities for a major overhaul. It has seemed to have got so close on many occasions over the years, only to be pushed back down again by something else.
The current emphasis on Twitter and Facebook is only going to make that worse really and it's a trend that I don't think is likely to get reversed.
I'd very much like to be proven wrong though! lol



Artithiemius said:
So can anyone tell me why my stats aren't showing up on the high scores?

I can see your stats on the highscores.

Funny thing is, I didn't think F2P were on the highscores so didn't think to look for my own even until you said that Artithiemius, lol.


Oh, and Sookie, that new avatar of yours is positively scary! What is that thing swallowing your face?
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For top secret reasons, I would like to keep this thread open for a little while longer, I hope you don't mind Treemaid!

I promise to keep you all updated on why we're keeping this open :)


^For those that haven't seen it yet.

Sounds exciting ay? I wonder what the secret is. Presumably something to do with a forums update, since it's posted on a thread about forum improvements. Can't wait!

On another note, I'm away for a week from tomorrow - hope I don't miss the grand unveiling of the secret! lol
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12-Apr-2014 11:51:29

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^ You know, I'm not even sure if I'm 'allowed to' or not, lol, though I don't think anyone would actually mind if I did. I think I'd prefer not to say on these public forums though. They're so...public! lol

And as for evergreen, well, I've always preferred deciduous trees anyway. :P
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20-Apr-2014 18:32:46 - Last edited on 20-Apr-2014 18:33:35 by Treemaid

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illustrators said:
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Miss Misty said:
Your green has gone! :(


Yeh, no worries though, it was a voluntary defoliation. I'm trying out the winter look. lol


Stay warm! thanks for everything treemaid <3

- illustrators


Aww, thank you! :)
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23-Apr-2014 12:41:55

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Little bit sad. Can't maintain The FIT anymore since I'm unable to edit the first posts; neither can I close it. Pah. :(

Solan,

"will they ever fix our forum profiles"?

They've been broken for so long, it'd feel like an old friend had died if they fixed it now. lol
Seriously though, maybe they're saving it up for some forthcoming big forums update or something? I hope they've not forgotten it!
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03-May-2014 07:54:02

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^ Thanks for posting that Divine. It was an excellent idea!
(For others, it's about getting info from Jmod accounts etc on Twitter, onto the forums. Go read it!)
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04-May-2014 08:36:20

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Miss Misty said:
*whispers quickly to the others* should we tell her?

Certainly not! If she thinks we're all sensible, why burst her bubble? :D

Catweazle said:
Okay, I see what is happening here now.
You're all Crazies in Camouflage ain't you, hmmm?

No. Negative. Definitely not, no. By no means. Not at all. Not in the slightest. Oh, and did I forget to say?...no! :P
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15-May-2014 18:58:18 - Last edited on 15-May-2014 19:01:38 by Treemaid

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Sookie Lala said:
I don't think they do that anymore. I think if a member with a forum avatar becomes f2p, they get to keep their avatar.

I have to say "I think" because I haven't seen a jmod confirm this.

EDIT: I am wrong. Someone just got the helmet but it did take ages for it to change I think.

Oh! I just commented on your post in Rants chat thread on that Sookie! And now I come here and find I should have done it here instead. :P lol
Anyway, yeh, been five months for me so far. I do hope they're not gonna force my head into that helmet! It'd squash my feather! *pats hair*
Mainly though, it just makes it easier to spot my own posts on a page. Variety ftw!
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25-May-2014 16:43:47

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Miss Misty said:
Treemaid said:
It was a deliberate attempt to sabotage my superior sisterhood?! What further depths could you sink to?! :o You bring shame upon our green heads! Our Old Mother Shrek would turn in her grave if she knew!

Oh! And if you wish to discuss this further, you can find me on the chat thread! Don't expect me to come running here for you! Pah!

*Runs off to warn chompy birds to hide if Misty comes by*


Superior sisterhood? Hahahaha don't make me laugh! I will sink to every depth to show the forums your true colours! You only bring shame upon your own head! Were you not the one who began to wish themselves different to other free-to-play members when your helmet should have been placed upon your head immediately? Yes... exactly - alwayyyyys seeking to be the better sister and crying to mummy dearest :@

That's it run away. You never were the caring older sister. Always putting me in the shade! You are just jealous of my hair being brighter than yours! My hat is far more practical in the winter than yours too which is essential due to my....powers.

Just let it go Treemaid! Let it go! Turn away and slam the dooorrrr! Let it go! Let it go! You'll never see me cry!

You go to the chat thread!!

Talking of chat threads.... should there be one for every forum? Should this forum be split into two? Could there ever be a live chat on the site?

I can't wait for the updates Allstar brings, he will obviously favour the suggestion you have on the FIT just to make you feel better about your inferiority!

I don't care about those chompy birds - who would want a stupid impractical feather anyway!

*sobs in a corner* mummy shrek was always proud I thought


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31-May-2014 22:52:54

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Your..."powers"? That's right! Fling that in my bonny green face will ya! Those should have been mine! At least I wouldn't have used them to steal my own sister's good looks! And yes, don't think I don't know why your neck looks much longer and more graceful than mine! “Powers!” Pah!
You might have been Old Mother Shrek's favourite, but at least I never broke her heart with any so called “powers”!

And Mod Allstar? Well, I know you've been bribing him with the irresistible lure of green skin dye, so I shan't be surprised if he implements all the website suggestions before the forum suggestions! And I've been wondering why we've been waiting so long for forum updates? Well now I know! I should have smelt the stench of evil sister on the air!

You want a split in these forums? Well why not! You'll be laughing on the other side of your green face when the Website forum has no threads and the Forums forum has them all!

And by the way...did I mention?

You've got hat hair!
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31-May-2014 22:53:53 - Last edited on 31-May-2014 22:56:02 by Treemaid

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Miss Misty said:
*just looks to you with saddened eyes* I am sorry.... you were always the older one, the intelligent one, the one mother shrek loved most and in my infantile jealousy, I abused my powers to try to become more beautiful. I just wanted to impress you in one way.. all I have done is turn you away!

Mod Allstar talks about your forum updates all the time and they are obviously the most favourable, I always knew you had the best head on your shoulders. *sobs quietly*

*holds a bucket of skin colour dye above my head* I will do it if you wish! You have always wanted to stay the supreme sister. Well I never wanted these powers anyway! You should have had them and I am sorry, nature just obviously loves me more than you ;)

I may have hat hair, but unlike your ugly seaweed looking strands of hair getting buffeted by the wind and knotted around your head band, mine stays firmly and beautifully still beneath a MORE extraordinary hat!


Aww Sis. Your confession has touched my green heart! And ok, since it's time for confessions, maybe my hat hair comment was more fuelled by jealousy (well, I am green after all!) than fact. Lend me your hat sometime, huh? :P

*Chants* “Make up, make up, never gonna break up”

Oh, and leave off that 'skin coloured' dye! It's bad for the complexion!
Green ftw!
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04-Jun-2014 12:18:46

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DSquirrelGM said:
If this last page counts as sanity on the forums, we're in a real heap of trouble...

He he, ok, you may have a point there. :P

Miss Misty said:

You might have the fit (good looking) thread, but I have all the wit sis ;) #sisterlybanter

What's an 'f' and a 'w' between sisters? The important thing is, we're both 'IT! :P

Finance said:
Has anyone else noticed the forum user count increasing? It's around 260 right now, don't think I've seen it that high in a while...

To be honest, I never even think to look! Not quite sure why not.
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12-Jun-2014 21:58:33 - Last edited on 12-Jun-2014 22:02:55 by Treemaid

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Miss Misty said:
Miss Misty said:

You might have the fit (good looking) thread, but I have all the wit sis ;) #sisterlybanter


What's an 'f' and a 'w' between sisters? The important thing is, we're both 'IT! :P


United we are stronger... now lets take over the RSOF hand in hand! :P


Hmm, think we may need a few more reinforcements.
*looks around for fellow green skins*
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14-Jun-2014 08:52:57

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Finance said:
I have the green skin, but it definitely does not match my hat :(

Get your priorities right! :P


Finance said:
Looks like Louiellen got her wish with the authenticator :P

Well, as someone who doesn't have a smart phone or separate second computer, it's going to scupper my account security. :(


Calm Enigma said:

I may not have green skin on the forums (I do in-game :P) but perhaps my feather can be seen as a mark of allegiance? ;)

Works for me, not sure it'll work for Misty. :P lol
(Nice to see you posting in green by the way - it suits you!)

Alaz said:
Thought others might support this:

Quick In-Game FORUM ACCESS

:)

Posted. Thanks for that! :)
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22-Jun-2014 08:14:32 - Last edited on 22-Jun-2014 08:18:30 by Treemaid

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Calm Enigma said:
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Calm.... The feather can signify our marriage yes? :o

Am I to deduce something about the relationship between you and Tree from that? :P


First I've heard of it if it is! I know nothing about this new feather symbolism! lol
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28-Jun-2014 15:43:49

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Finance said:
Yay, Treemaid is a member again :)

Hee hee, I got tempted by the 25% off summer offer, so I'll be a member for at least three months now. Maybe if I buy the accounts team all cookies, they'll let me have 25% off indefinitely?
...or perhaps not. lol

Edit,
oh, and for the record, I kept my avatar for nearly 7 months this time. I'm starting to think that ex-members perhaps no longer lose their avatars, unless anyone's experienced anything different recently?
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29-Jul-2014 08:23:44 - Last edited on 29-Jul-2014 08:25:35 by Treemaid

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Motley Crue said:
Wow 380 active users. These past few weeks feel like it's 2012 again for the forums. Good to see such high activity lately.

Yup! Seems like Legacy's brought a breath of fresh air to the game and forums, both!

DSquirrelGM said:

Don't know for sure on that one, but it would be nice if they made that change intentionally.

It would, wouldn't it! :)
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29-Jul-2014 21:08:16

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Anyone know why sometimes when I post my siggy on The FIT, it changes the first two squiggles to asterixes, and sometimes it doesn't? I'm mystified! I've fiddled about with spaces before and after the squiggles, but it doesn't seem to make any difference.

The siggy is this:

~~Click here for important update on the status of this thread.~~


(I've removed the post link from the word 'here' but I doubt that makes any difference - don't want to be branded a thread hijacker after all! lol)
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06-Aug-2014 08:20:08 - Last edited on 06-Aug-2014 08:25:35 by Treemaid

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It's the unpredictability of it that frightens me! lol
Wouldn't it look a bit strange with a c or r at the start or end? And does that really make a difference? It's all very weird!
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07-Aug-2014 22:05:13

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Chan,
Ah! That's very helpful thank you! Not being able to type eg or ie was another one of my niggles. Now I know I'll just have to stop using punctuation lol.

Freud,
I can c your see! I mean, I can see your c! *grins*

On another note, I'm away for a few days from, well, now really. See you all when I get back! :P
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08-Aug-2014 12:38:35

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Finance said:
Decided against changing my name again - GL to whoever snipes the names Judge and Justice :)

Had my eye on those!


Well, thank heavens for that! I struggle to keep up with your name changes as it is. :P lol



And hi Krista. What's with the...
second thoughts, nevermind. :P
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28-Aug-2014 15:39:25

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Finance said:
Any suggestions for a title to match my new display name? :O

Finance
the Generous

Finance
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Finance
the Philanthropist

Finance
the Forlorn

Final Boss
Finance
Artful Dodger
Finance
Finance
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03-Sep-2014 21:08:37 - Last edited on 03-Sep-2014 21:10:50 by Treemaid

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^I've just had a look to try to find where to send an account related 'ticket' from too Nexus, and like you, failed to find any link for it on the Wiki pages that are linked to from the Customer Support threads on the forums. It seems to be so hard for people to contact Jagex. Didn't the email addresses used to be up on those support threads too? I wonder if they are no longer in use, or if it's just kept a bit of a secret. Would be nice for customers to have a straightforward way of contacting Jagex for help, after reading all the relevant info they have at least. If it's there at all, it seems you certainly have to dig deeper to find it than you or I have managed to at least.


Speaking of hard to find things, took me a minute or so to work out how to log in to the website. It's kinda smaller and less obvious now, not clear if you're logging into the game or the website from that little button either. I suspect a lot of people coming to the forums for the first time to post something are likely to give up from missing that little 'sign in'. Shame that.
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16-Sep-2014 18:51:06 - Last edited on 16-Sep-2014 18:54:01 by Treemaid

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joe poop said:
Oh no, what happened to your avatar Tree ?

Someone's turned me to stone! :o


Start 14 n-n said:
Hello.

Long time no see! Hello! :)


King Doctor said:
matt decided to step by i see
how are you all ?

Hi Doc, well ta. :)
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18-Nov-2014 22:14:58

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Happy Christmas to all who celebrate it, and season's greetings to those who don't!

I had to get up at 7am this morning to get the turkey in the oven. Everyone else is still asleep, not surprisingly, so time for a little Christmas RuneScape before they wake! Mwhahaha! :D
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25-Dec-2014 07:49:24

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Hellooo! :) Just testing what happens with the new 'reply to this post' button by the way. Trying to work out how it's different from quoting a post.

Edit: Oh, that test didn't help me. It looks just as if I've posted a new post on the thread, with no indication of what I'm replying to (I did the 'reply to this post' from Misty's post above me by the way). So is it really a 'reply to thread' button then? Just misnamed? I don't get it.
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22-Mar-2015 14:09:47 - Last edited on 22-Mar-2015 14:12:41 by Treemaid

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Hmm. Just having a 'thread reply ' or similar tooltip would be less misleading. With a 'reply to this post' tooltip on a button accessed from each person's post, it gives the impression that that post is the particular post on the thread that you would be replying to by clicking that button. Hmm, need to update my feedback on the 'new forums' feedback thread now! lol AKA: Arbr**** Vie
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22-Mar-2015 20:30:59

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Hey all,

So I have setup a test branch in the office (christened 3.1) and in it I have re-added the "show in thread" button you have all been missing - apologies I just simply missed it when reading through the legacy code base.

We're going to look at a couple more features / fix a few more bugs based on your feedback so as always feel free to post it in the forums or tweet it to me and we'll consider any of it that is realistically achievable.

I know a lot of you were disappointed by the lack of changes to profile view. To cut a long story short the forums is a very old system that adding new features to is very fiddly (specifically anything that involves storage or vast searching of threads). This means methods such as profiling your favourite threads or adding a JMOD icon to threads where a JMOD has posted are very awkward to do. Whilst nothing is impossible we do have to balance our time with what is most beneficial to the business at the present time (something that Mod Rascasse probably has one of the hardest jobs doing). So please don't feel that we ignore your feedback we do make every effort to read and act on as much of it as we reasonably can :)

Hope this update brings a little more cheer to the community!

ps the JMOD spinning crown is still under debate ;)


Just posting this here for any who may have missed it. Disappointed at what was said about the customisation of our profile thread list, but not surprised. Looks like until the forums get their massive overhaul, that's something we're not going to see. And I doubt those who have the job of prioritising dev time are likely to ever see the forums as an area to prioritise, all the more so since the drift towards social media instead. We've waited years for the big forum update and I've finally got to admit that now I'm all out of hope.

Still, looking on the bright side, the little tweaks have been welcome non-the-less. :)
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25-Mar-2015 20:36:16

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Wilf said:
"Looks like until the forums get their massive overhaul, that's something we're not going to see."

Blind faith or a very optimistic person :P


That was optimistic? I'd hate to think what pessimistic is then. lol

And bye bye forum avatar. They're very quick to remove them nowdays! Used to be months and months - which for a change was a welcome oversight. ;)
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Kinda sad to see this thread not really being used much any more. There seems to be a lot of discussion on The Forum Improvements Thread currently that could well be happening here instead. Makes me feel a little guilty that what I personally consider to be an obsolete thread that is no longer able to fulfil its original function (apart from as a reference for the Web Devs, which needn't be on the public forums at all), seems to be detracting from this thread which was designed for such discussion in the first place.

Anyway, didn't really come here to moan, just voicing my thoughts after having read through the recent FIT posts. What I came here to do was ask if anyone knows what that symbol means that shows particular gems or RS metal types when you hover over someone's name on the forums? My 'elitist' hackles are starting to rise! lol
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06-May-2015 11:37:09

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Sookie Lala said:
Well at least its only seen when you mouse over the avatar, I am pretty sure they were going to have it next to the avatar somewhere but changed it due to feedback before they implemented it.
I guess, looking on the bright side, though it would have been brighter if they'd not implemented that at all in my opinion.

Hauk Solo said:
These 'forum ranks' have confused me a little. I'm not surprised nor concerned about the fact that they have been introduced, but I do not understand the ranking system at all.

Does it go through the metals and then into gems? It is rather strange.
Taking a look at some random players' post counts and symbols, it does look like they start with the metals and go on to the gems, but I agree, it's hardly obvious – though perhaps that's for the best! lol.

I wonder if there's a thread somewhere that explains it.
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07-May-2015 12:49:17

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Sookie Lala said:
Oh yeah, but apparently it will make the forums more active. Well, that was their reasoning anyways.

Well I'm sure the post count competitors will have a very active time in forum games whacking up their post counts for shiney new badges! lol

Let's hope the more widely spread spammers haven't caught onto this too, ay?

Quality>quantity
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07-May-2015 17:27:57 - Last edited on 07-May-2015 17:32:09 by Treemaid

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Miss Misty said:
I think the only way to have a suitable ranking system would be if there was a "support" button for posts and it was done by the number of supports really. A buttona ppreciating the quality of posts. All this will do is (as Treemaid states above) is increase Forum Games and potential spamming.

Though personally, I love the concept and idea for regular forum users and those who post things other than just games or spam.


I've never been for a post support option myself, but I agree, if we must have some system of ranking forum users at all, that would be preferable to a post count, since it would at least have the potential to reward quality posts over quantity.

I'd still rather have neither though. The poster doesn't need to be ranked at all. Each post will stand or fall on its own merit. Regular forumers know already which users are in the habit of saying something that is worth saying and being read.
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08-May-2015 21:58:52

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Sookie Lala said:
Miss Misty said:
Sookie Lala said:
Yeah, they should link that orb thing to the forums somehow so when you take a pic using it you can post it on the forums.


I just think images should be limited, people could say things in game that are offensive or inappropriate and use orbs and scrying pools to then take a picture of it etc.

It seems like a lot of effort and a waste of time since they could just type it, but trolls don't mind wasting time apparently.

I think if images were ever introduced it should be a list of images that Jagex provide of around the game, items, quest help ones, perhaps use fansite ones from premium and Jagex supported sites :)

Have some faith in the community. Other sites allow pictures and such and don't seem to get many inappropriate images.


I've never been keen on allowing images either, both from speed of loading pages, and possible ways players might post inappropriate stuff. I suppose though, if it's just in game screenies or images from the Runescape website, no harm in trialling it to see if the community is mature enough to be responsible with it or if it adversely affects page loading times. Trouble is with trying things out though, there's always a huge outcry if it has to be removed again, more than there'd be if it was never there in the first place. Hmm. I'm on the fence I think.
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19-May-2015 15:40:03

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Yay! The Forum Improvements Thread has finally been unstuck. No point it being there when I can't edit my first posts to update it after all. Maybe this thread will see a bit more of the action now. :)

I do hope that they've taken a copy of it somewhere for reference purposes though. Mod Balance's closing post didn't mention if he has, and there are still a heck of a lot of good ideas recorded on it from over the years. I was hoping the whole thread might be moved to their own forums.
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16-Jun-2015 14:08:08

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Alaz said:
Treemaid said:
(edited out for brevity)

Mod Allstar (or perhaps another member of the web team...?) mentioned a while back that they had archived the thread for themselves. It was part of the reason that made me so confused that it still needed to be around!


Oh yes, that rings bells, I think it was Mod Balance. I hope it's not in some area of his own though to be lost if he ever changes jobs/roles. The Jmods must surely have their own forums where The FIT could be moved to? No point it being in W&F until it slowly slips down to page 50. No one can post on it after all.

Anyway, all is conjecture, and one way or the other it's best unstickied anyway, so that's good. :)
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16-Jun-2015 18:15:26

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Figment_WDW said:
The sections under My Account section are no longer Collapsible. Is this a Glitch?
If I don't want to open/view a section I should not be forced to see it open.

Oh yes. Lots of scrolling now!
Maybe it will miraculously and mysteriously change back in the same mysterious manner it changed in the first place. :D

And hi all! Nice to see some familiar names still active on this thread. :)
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15-Nov-2015 21:08:20

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Having a quiet sniffle to myself over the immanent death of The Forum Improvements Thread. It’s half way down page 49 now. All that blood sweat and tears by so many people for over four years, being permanently obliterated from forum history! I do so hope the Web Devs have stashed away a copy of all our forums hopes and dreams somewhere before it's too late. I know I have!

Those were the days though, huh? *reminisces*
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05-Mar-2016 22:43:45 - Last edited on 05-Mar-2016 22:44:03 by Treemaid

Treemaid

Treemaid

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A quick question, if anyone knows..
once you've opened someone's image on the forums, is there any way of closing it again? I'm finding some already a little annoying when I scroll up and down a page.
AKA: Arbr**** Vie
Please also remove the filter from our siggies Jagex! :)

06-Aug-2016 22:31:46

Treemaid

Treemaid

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Just come here to have a little moan about the HLF access thread not having been checked for over three months.
I don't mind waiting, and I know with all those locked out accounts they've had more pressing matters on their hands for a big chunk of that time, but I do hate having to keep 'the maxed' title on my account until I've been given access. It's putting me off speaking, it comes across as so egotistical!
Anyone know for sure if they just ask you to have that title until you're granted access because the titles used to be visible on the forums, and they just haven't updated that instruction since they were removed? I wouldn't want to change my title now if it might mean missing the next boat after all that waiting.
AKA: Arbr**** Vie
Please also remove the filter from our siggies Jagex! :)

15-May-2021 10:11:17

Treemaid

Treemaid

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Yikes! Been spotted by the Twillow! lol
Yeh, in the lack of any further information, I guess Corder's right, better safe than sorry. I'll just have to put up with players thinking I have an ego the size of a planet for a little (I hope!) longer then. lol
Thanks for looking into it though Twillow. :)
AKA: Arbr**** Vie
Please also remove the filter from our siggies Jagex! :)

15-May-2021 23:30:19 - Last edited on 15-May-2021 23:31:10 by Treemaid

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