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Mr RobinHood

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This is so disappointing, many of the players, did not even read the blog but heard negative feed back from those with high XP.......

This prestige system was EXCELLENT, the problem is these selfish idiots will never vote for a prestige system unless it in someway incorporates the current XP they had already made, toward it.

Compromise: Since the only semi-valid argument against prestige is they will feel like their hard work from previous was for nothing, why not allow the amount of XP a player had before prestiging the first time to be displayed on his skill cape or whatever cosmetic item.

Please don't scrap this system, it was a great idea! Would have helped the economy, promoted fair play in a world relatively bot free, while providing nothing more then cosmetic benefits!?!? Everybody wins, unfortunately not everybody reads:(
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17-Oct-2013 12:46:49

Mr RobinHood

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Storukas said:
I voted NO because this is useless and adds nothing to gaming experience. Replaying same levels over and over again? lol?
Update skills, make them actually useful and spend your money for better things, not this useless crap just because you don't know how to make some of skills actually worth training.
Ty, have a good day.


Look another "I don't want to do it, so it shouldn't be here" ---- awesome, bet you were glad we didn't do that when it came to 07 scape
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17-Oct-2013 12:49:58

Mr RobinHood

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What King alarius has said and I said previously the only compromise that will get this passed is to somehow include the the previous XP (superficially) in such a way that gives players a little credit for they have already done.....

I think with this sort of compromise, enough people will bypass those who simply think it's something they'd have to do again but not want to do....(you don't have to do it, why stop those who do?)

I will judge however I want, theirs plenty of people who say those who voted yes, are ..... So in the most respectful way possible..... Jump off a cliff:-D
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17-Oct-2013 13:00:38 - Last edited on 17-Oct-2013 13:01:47 by Mr RobinHood

Mr RobinHood

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Mace Brown said:
Mr RobinHood said:
This prestige system was EXCELLENT, the problem is these selfish idiots will never vote for a prestige system unless it in someway incorporates the current XP they had already made, toward it.


I'm such an selfish idiot that I'd have even voted "no" if all my current XP would count towards the system and I'd get a start bonus of 10k prestige right away.

If 75% of playership should votes "yes", then it's ok. It would show that 75% of players focus on getting xp in their skills beyond the level 99 cap, and that gathering xp and being able to show the results via highscore ranks is what playing Runescape means to them.

But if the poll shows there is no such majority, then it might be sensefull to think about what the reasons to play for this majority of players voting "no" are, and to look how to add content supporting these reasons. This would help more than calling others names just cause they have a different opinion.

Best regards,
Mace


Sorry I shouldn't have have combined the 2 titles I used. Selfish those who don't want to chase XP, so nobody should ... and Idiots, that was the term to described the many comments in the prestige forum that were saying no because of (insert false, inaccurate, I never even read it comment here) ....

They said they are intent on making this system one way or another, so maybe providing accurate feed back as to what they can do to improve the system rather then "I don't wanna" .....

Lastly, lets act as if the poll reflects the minority the content is aimed at? They are trying to make a system that will fix the ranking system in the high scores..

Does the majority of the player base care about ranks? Of course not.... That's a majority of the No's right there.

DO the high Ranking players want to sacrifice their XP already made? Of course not

A vote was silly
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17-Oct-2013 13:12:43 - Last edited on 17-Oct-2013 13:14:53 by Mr RobinHood

Mr RobinHood

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Prestige was a great idea- it was content aimed at the minority of players *those who chase ranks* That would also have a positive effect on the economy and bringing life to old content. Yet the problem with voting was........

1. A majority of the players will never chase ranks and thus will vote no
2. Those with High ranks will also vote no, because they will feel their XP was a waste

That's an awful small window of people to vote yes? How are you going to implement a system to fix the high scores that all players will vote for?

-Your prestige system was a great way to fix the current problems while adding benefits to those who don't participate in chasing ranks, as well as only giving COSMETIC benefits to those who chase ranks. but it's not often people will vote against their interest.

-Having a vote was silly
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17-Oct-2013 13:45:07 - Last edited on 17-Oct-2013 13:45:36 by Mr RobinHood

Mr RobinHood

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AloNeInChaos said:
Vexx072 said:
If the prestige system was really aimed at the majority of high lvl players as you so claim I'm almost certain that the majority of us high lvl players would much rather prefer skill lvls increased from 99 to 120. Yea, you say that increasing skill lvl caps would take a lot of time but doesn't everything that comes out great take a lot of time too? Even if it would take a year at the drawing board I would still be for 120 lvls.


Of course people would say this because it keeps their current xp in mind, which is still the problem
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17-Oct-2013 14:07:31

Mr RobinHood

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Helguard5 said:
I voted no, I would love to see levels increased to 120 rather than ruin the competative system


*fix the competitive system* Right now first person to 200 mill before bot watch (although has its flaws right now) was in place --- was not competitive or fair
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17-Oct-2013 14:26:01

Mr RobinHood

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Ingmar said:
Main X said:
The only reasons given to not implement prestige are self-beneficial, rather than game-beneficial..

Welcome to democracy, I hope you enjoy your stay.


~Ingmar


I believe this game takes place in a time of king and queens? Hopefully when they redo this system they don't take into account the peasants :-D Welcome to Runescape, which I know you enjoyed cause you have stayed
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17-Oct-2013 14:44:56

Mr RobinHood

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Kirith Kirin said:
I voted no.

The Prestige system wouldn't solve the problem that it sets out to solve.

Original message details are unavailable.
With this update, the hiscore tables will unlock and once again the top spot will be occupied by the player who worked the hardest, not the one who got there first.


The player who worked the hardest is also the one who "got there first." The difference between the old "there" and the new "there" is that the new one has no upper bound, so there isn't ever an end-- in other words, the horrible mad rush to 99 that happened when Divination came out would go on forever. As staff, you probably noticed what the "competitive" players were doing at the time-- pulling off long hours of "working hard," sleeping not much at all, and skipping work. I don't think you want to encourage that sort of gameplay.

Also, at the person who said this:

Main X said:
Ingmar said:
Main X said:
The only reasons given to not implement prestige are self-beneficial, rather than game-beneficial..

Welcome to democracy, I hope you enjoy your stay.


~Ingmar


And that's why nothing gets better.


Democracy works because people take their own self-interest into consideration. Amalgamated self-interest is supposedly a good thing. Go read Rousseau.


Tired of of this argument it took more work from the first players: FALSE!! Botting was unchecked and rampant, currently players are forced to be legitimate (more so then before) due to bot watch--

This would allow current active players, to compete indefinitely against each other --- Nice try
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17-Oct-2013 14:55:00

Mr RobinHood

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I've read some players complain about this increasing addiction? Shouldn't you seek help for that rather then the blame the game for future content because of your lack of self control? \\ \\ \\_________|`›¸ ............Sir.RôbiñHôôd ......... ¸‹´|_______// // //
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17-Oct-2013 15:00:02

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Takai said:
King Bibbler said:
Cinderlynn said:
I'm not really against this update I would just rather they raise the level cap and add more high end content!


Trust me Cinderlyn, nobody outside of the top 50 players would get 120 all skills for many many years to come (In all probably the remainder of the time this game still exists). Do you really want your character to become that outclassed or that irrelevant forever?

Unless you plan to gain ~2.6 B xp in the blink of an eye (which I might add is impossible considering it takes years and years to even consider getting 1B xp) I would reconsider your stance on this one.


Why are you so obsessed with maxing? Don't you see that's what's so wrong with this game now? This game has become all about getting to max, and none of the journey matters anymore. Back in this game's prime, it was amazing for a person to even have one or two 99s. Getting 99s was insanely hard, probably harder than getting 120 would be today, and yet people were okay with that. People were proud of having level 70 all skills, and that was all you really needed.

But people like you, as of the last few years, have become increasingly obsessed with "finishing" a game that was never designed to be finished.


Exactly!
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17-Oct-2013 15:15:56

Mr RobinHood

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Vanagloria said:

Your intentions are understandable and much appreciated but I do very much think a mistake is being made in giving so much power to the player-base in regards to what does and does not become a part of the Runescape experience. Additionally a large collection of players come from the "any change is bad change" mindset, refusing to let go of their subjectively "greater" past experiences; the "glory days of Runescape" as some refer to it. Continuing down this path will result in stagnation of more elaborate game content whether it be good or bad. For example:
1) Evolution of Combat update - Met with massive disapproval
2) Interface update - Met with disapproval
3) Bonds - Met with massive disapproval
Even the custom competition was met with hostility in the case of a few players...

That's just my two cents for whatever its worth.


Prestige was a great idea- it was content aimed at the minority of players *those who chase ranks* That would also have a positive effect on the economy and bringing life to old content. Yet the problem with voting was........

1. A majority of the players will never chase ranks and thus will vote no
2. Those with High ranks will also vote no, because they will feel their XP was a waste

That's an awful small window of people to vote yes? How are you going to implement a system to fix the high scores that all players will vote for?

-Your prestige system was a great way to fix the current problems while adding benefits to those who don't participate in chasing ranks, as well as only giving COSMETIC benefits to those who chase ranks. but it's not often people will vote against their interest (200mill xp) or something they don't perceive as a direct benefit to themselves.

-In short letting people vote was silly.-
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17-Oct-2013 15:26:08

Mr RobinHood

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Just to agree, I wanted prestige mainly so we could advance our skill capes looks -- so stick to something with that idea, I want whatever work I do in a skill to be reflected on my cape.

That's honestly why I wanted this update lol
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17-Oct-2013 15:35:53

Mr RobinHood

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Pretty said:
Sorry for posting so much. But another reason why I voted 'no' was that it took me 7 years to get to where I am now (2461 ttl). It will probably be another year for me to max... Most people will max in a 5-10 year period. Realizing new skill levels with that much xp, it could take people another 10-20 years. Then to get the next prestige, another 15-30 years. It will take a lifetime to max your account truly.

~Love Israel


Once again this game wasn't designed with an end-game in mind- Since prestiging is unlimited you truly have the wrong mindset about this.
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17-Oct-2013 15:53:21 - Last edited on 17-Oct-2013 15:53:49 by Mr RobinHood

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Lotuspod said:
Too many people voting no just to keep their place on an outdated, broken 200m leaderboard. Complain about bonds, complain about eoc...tbh I'm going back to looking for a new game who are going to be innovative. Pretty much only the old grinding players left here who are still clinging to maxed level or 200m in a skill. That stuff doesn't last forever anyway and will only lead to the game becoming stale for any new player. Enjoy the greed and selfishness, it's only going to lead to even less fresh players coming into the game.

Seriously, I have seen some of the worst excuses for not adding prestige...I now truly regret coming back to this game recently.

Hope those who voted no will enjoy the stale, broken 200m leaderboards. May they have fun grinding the same small end-game content for highest levels/exp rate and leave the rest of the game content barren and dead.

And lol at jagex thinking they can get 75% of the community to agree on anything at all.


Yes sir:( They didn't even provide a no vote to OLD SCHOOL RS!!! SO many voted (like myself) so that those who wanted it didn't get screwed,,,
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17-Oct-2013 16:05:48

Mr RobinHood

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Poosie Kat said:
For all those voting "NO" on prestige...take head to this warning...Jagex could very well implement this update if more than 75% vote yes and 98% vote no...which makes this whole voting thing a double edge sword!


Holy crap these are the type of people that shouldn't be allowed to vote, lol
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17-Oct-2013 16:12:55

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Veldmar said:
Thanks for letting us vote on this. I voted "no" because this would be a nightmare for completionists.


as they already said it would not be a requirement :( another misunderstood NO
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17-Oct-2013 16:37:41

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Compromise: How about before any player prestiges once, the XP they prestiged at is reflected on the back of their cape ---
so if somebody has 200 mill XP in a skill it will be reflected on their skill cape.

Say somebody was level 99 with 13 mill XP and prestiged immediately after they hit 13mill ---- Then 13 mill would be reflectd on their skill cape + how many stars for how many times they prestiged
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17-Oct-2013 16:45:53

Mr RobinHood

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I had 1 insulting post that I elaborated on, please stop crying. If you found that particular post insulting, then I don't know what else to do. Admittedly, I'm frustrated the No reasons don't extend to anything beyond "I'm not going to do it so nobody should" or "I already have lots of XP so no"

I have offered compromised ideas to the latter of those reasons but if my tone gets you butt hurt, I'm sorry. If the term butt hurt gets you butthurt, then ... I see what you mean:-P

As far as your question dedzar, I thought you read my post and you would know that I don't care about XP being higher then somebody else.

I'm sorry you disagree with me, but in all honesty CALM DOWN

Good day Dedzar
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17-Oct-2013 18:58:11

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Izuku_MHA said:
Rex Caeli said:
Can't believe that so many players voted 'no' just because they wouldn't use the prestige system. I wouldn't use it myself, but come on! Why take away that opportunity from other players? You are never forced to reset your 99's back to level 1. And the maxed players get another opportunity to train those skills back to 99 without having to create another character. The egoism in a large part of the player base is absoluty pitiful. Ashaming even.

I am proud to vote 'yes' because i want this game to be good for everyone, not just myself!


This^

+1
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17-Oct-2013 19:07:40

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Lotuspod said:
White Jaguar said:
Already canceled my membership. Will not renew if something is not done to fix the terrible stagnation in this game. People have their heads so far up their butts to see that this update would actually be good for the game. but NOOOOOOOO people have to be so stinking selfish (seriously at all the people who voted no even though they didnt really know what it is or that they just don't care and wouldnt use it) They can't think past what is in the present to see what will actually help and what will hinder this game. I have been playing this game since this game was just a brand new little idea that mod Andrew had back in 1999. Guess jagex cares so little for its game now that they would be influenced by people who ultimately in a yr or so, wont even matter.

GJ at ruining your own game jagex. Peace


Cancelled mine an hour or 2 ago also. Pretty soon rs will be nothing more than a group of maxed/completionists with nobody else to pay attention to their "achievements".

No new players want to start a game where nobody is doing the newer player activities that they are, and nearly all the rest have nearly completed everything. Too much disparity in the player base.

I'm starting to get the feeling that nobody wants fair hiscores without having the bots and rwt of old. Even if a player didnt use them directly, they tainted the entire game economy for a very long time.


Great point, This update would also allow the most active players in the game to interact with the newest and medium level players, helping to provide great contacts and possibly promote a funner environment for all! I love that
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17-Oct-2013 19:16:16

Mr RobinHood

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Nat said:
Did you even read the update?

Which brings me to the next comment, I know very well the GOOD things that would come out of this. However, there are thousands of other updates that would work better to fix the economy and bring in new players without effecting the current player base. The bad (which effect everyone) outweigh the good, in my opinion.

And yeh i read the post m8s


I'd be interested to hear about the "thousands " of other updates that would fix the economy, bring in new players and do what this was trying to do, fix the problem with high scores, while still rewarding players for their increased work ina specific skill while not punishing them or giving them an advantage with their current xp? --- HMMMMMMMM
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17-Oct-2013 19:55:21 - Last edited on 17-Oct-2013 19:56:09 by Mr RobinHood

Mr RobinHood

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Nat said:
Mr RobinHood said:
I'd be interested to hear about the "thousands " of other updates that would fix the economy, bring in new players and do what this was trying to do, fix the problem with high scores, while still rewarding players for their increased work ina specific skill while not punishing them or giving them an advantage with their current xp? --- HMMMMMMMM


There's no problem with the high scores. Those who make it to the top first deserve to be there, even if they ground thousands of hours.


Well, why call it high scores and not first score? I love fixing the high scores because in this system prestiging is endless, theirs no end game was never meant to be. Everybody would be on the same turf with integrity increased by botwatch. (disclaimer: I know not everybody has botted but we also know a large amount did, so don't get butthurt)

You claim to know the passive benefits that this prestige would give but also say that the bad GREATLY outweighs the positive, which I don't recall you have mentioned?

Anyways, I can see why you're against this update simply if you don't think the high scores is broken:-P
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17-Oct-2013 20:08:30 - Last edited on 17-Oct-2013 20:09:21 by Mr RobinHood

Mr RobinHood

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Nattie, no reason to get defensive you said the negatives heavily outweighed the positives, I'm sure if you explained to us what those are, people would be willing to respectively engage in conversation, no reason to get defensive

We're just curious what the bad is
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17-Oct-2013 20:17:44

Mr RobinHood

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Nattie, I like how you quoted my reasonable response, followed by somebody who asked for reasonable responses... I've been following this for awhile and missed you specify any negatives, so excuse me for being curious.

I'd like to consider myself pretty objective in most arguments, I don't try to have sides in advance. Admittedly, the only reasonable No argument I have seen is, is that it's kind of unfair for those with lots of XP past 99.

I have offered compromising ideas to that issue but beyond that I don't see any other legitimate concerns. That's why I have asked you NATTIE, what te heavy negatives were.... I'm trying to be objective... you don't mind writing a block of text to tell people to back off but not why it's bad...
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17-Oct-2013 20:36:13

Mr RobinHood

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Speaking of attacking, I like your hostility, I see some of your skills may reach 30 mill XP, besides dungeoneering why are you concerned about any of your work being ruined?

But yes I'd be glad to read somebody elses post for the "heavy negatives"
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17-Oct-2013 20:42:57

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FlyingFox said:
Robin Hoo d , I posted on page 52 a short version of what the negatives are.

1.I'd love to also add that when this prestige thing goes in, a lot of open possibilities will simply be impossible anymore, because they have implemented this system. What they offer here is a (bad) alternative to race to 200 million experience, resulting in a lot more redundant items flowing into the game , while gobbling up all the resources with the wealth a big portion of us high level players have obtained.

2.With a reset a lot of skills will generate a lot more garbage, and newcomers will be rewarded by handing in their resources , rather than having the satisfaction of delivering self-made products people actually will use.

If you'd continue in prestige to create new kinds of items that sinkholes others , like they intend to do with the new skill as well, like they did with summoning also, I see a brighter future than this silly alternative.

3.Again I prefer to see a positive community, rather than being in a list with people who achieved the same as you.


1.- That is the good reason! The race to 200 mill is obtainable prestige has no end game which is what any highscores, mmo should have.

1.-Those who want a silly star on their back of the cape will waste the aquired wealth they have obtained for seemingly no reason to normal players which distributes money to those gather and sell. A much needed POSTIVE sinkhole because it's OPTIONAL.

2. I don't understand this?

3. With prestige not everybody would be the same because prestige is ENDLESS. People would be unique or specialist-- where somebody would rank every skill in prestige and be higher on the highscores, others would do what they love over and over again.
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17-Oct-2013 20:57:27

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Magic Mama said:
FlyingFox said:
Robin Hoo d , I posted on page 52 a short version of what the negatives are.

I'd love to also add that when this prestige thing goes in, a lot of open possibilities will simply be impossible anymore, because they have implemented this system. What they offer here is a (bad) alternative to race to 200 million experience, resulting in a lot more redundant items flowing into the game , while gobbling up all the resources with the wealth a big portion of us high level players have obtained.

With a reset a lot of skills will generate a lot more garbage, and newcomers will be rewarded by handing in their resources , rather than having the satisfaction of delivering self-made products people actually will use.

If you'd continue in prestige to create new kinds of items that sinkholes others , like they intend to do with the new skill as well, like they did with summoning also, I see a brighter future than this silly alternative.

Again I prefer to see a positive community, rather than being in a list with people who achieved the same as you.


"generate a lot more garbage" ? being resources? How would this be a bad thing, if more people are training, more people are buying items, more people are selling items. It's a cycle, the same as it is now.

Also, what is wrong with newcomers being able to make money? and what's wrong with higher wealth players having to spend their money - if they choose to do so - on leveling skills again? Newcomers are more likely to stay if areas that they level actually have people there.

and what's the point of having a stack of cash in your bank with nothing to spend it on?

The game will no longer be a race to 200m xp. Hiscores are not meant to cap and sit on the same players forever. They're meant to be a constant race to see who really is the top player - the person wil
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Yup
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17-Oct-2013 21:05:46

Mr RobinHood

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Nat said:
M a y be said:
Its a game Nattie, what does it matter if someone gets 200mill xp in 2 months, do you not just enjoy playing? for fun?


uwotm8. I don't think you've read anything Ive said tbh. Not mentioned anything about 'fun' or 'gains in 2months'

If I didn't enjoy playing I'd go elsewhere. I play for friends mostly. But I know that this update simply isn't a good idea, not in its current form or anything near it.


Please go dissapear, You highlight other ideas without adding any of your own while accusing others of not reading which is ironic because that accounts for many of the no votes:-p You don't ever explain why go troll elsewhere
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17-Oct-2013 21:07:57

Mr RobinHood

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FlyingFox said:
Robin Hoo D and Smurffaholic. I think my aswer both answers your questions and statements.

Don't confuse products with resources. it's a beginners mistake.


Doesn't answer our question, regardless of the term it doesn't address excess wealth being a bad thing when used on something as optional and cosmetic as prestige. It's still a positive
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17-Oct-2013 21:10:52

Mr RobinHood

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Anyways, I'm outty...

65 pages later to sum up the No's

"I don't want to level up again, so nobody should"
" My current xp is wasted"

For those of you just joining, the yesses are a bit more complex but if you actually read the DEV blog you'll see the benefits from there..... Which I implore everyone to do before voting yes or no.

Take care, Their rework to satisfy everybody should be interesting, I wonder what kind of compromises will have to be made to get a ridiculous 75% voting approval (Old school would HAVE NEVER REACHED THAT, they did not even let us vote no!)
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