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Nat

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This will end up being an overwhelming "No" just because the majority of the games players are(were - most likely with this update) higher levels that have invested thousands of hours already. Most of them would probably die inside rather than reset all of their levels back to 1 again, just to get them back to 99 in 2 to 3 years time. I'm one of those people.


I see how this would be a great update, I've thought long and hard about it. But at the end of the day, Runescape isn't gaining new players anyway. I highly doubt this will bring new players, and I highly doubt it will keep low-medium level players in the game.

I like the idea of the system, I really do. But it's horribly unrealistic in the state that it's in - if it was to be improved and changed around (such as the new HS not being the "relevant" one until YEARS later, I would change my stance. But for now, I don't much like the idea of you simply saying "try again" when I've already spent over 600 days played on this game.

Cbf grinding another 3 years just to get to 2 Prestige when we already know the people that can no-life will just do it again for their high ranks. This won't open up new people to the HS really, the same people will just do what they do best. It's unhealthy competition.

TLDR: I voted no.

17-Oct-2013 19:28:19

Nat

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Rhuiviel said:
CPU Neptune said:
Rhuiviel said:
I'll never understand why runescape players vote no on these type of things because they won't use it, or don't want to use it, or think it's like a different game.

Stop being selfish. Some of us were excited about this update! Uoure denying those that want it simply because you don't want to use the prestige system, or because it reminds you of CoDfish. That's 100% selfishness, and we allll know that if Jagex had named it anything else, there would be more votes in favor of it. prestige is in countless games, many of which vastly predate your fish shooter.

Grow up.


Sorry to break it to you but your view on this is selfish as well :/



How do you figure? I voted yes because it's something I'd like to see. I don't use the 07 servers, and never any intention to do so. But ya know what? I voted, because many players wanted it. If you're against prestige, then by all means. But voting no simply because you won't use it, like many players here gave done, it's selfish.


Well, if those 'many players wanted it' then they should be voting "yes."

This poll is a personal, selfish thing - you're voting for yourself. You don't represent anyone but yourself, since you're just ONE vote. This goes for the "NO" votes too.

Your logic is a bit off.

17-Oct-2013 19:38:08

Nat

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Did you even read the update? You can set it back to 99 if you need. Its completely optional.

The fun is in getting there, not sitting on your 99's and acting above everyone else.

And if you're too short-sighted to not see how it helps new players...then stop grinding and think a little. They have nobody to play/train with + low level economy is horrible atm. It's nearly all high levels doing a small part of the entire content in the game...aka the high level content. The majority of the game sits dead and dormant...how would that look to a new player who has to go through that?

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You can switch back to 99 with a fee - pointless if you can simply switch back and forth.

Why would thousands of high levels want to go back and relive it? It's not going to be fun like it was before - this was my same argument with 07scape. It's not fun doing it again, without the friends you met along the way, and you're already seeing people come back to the live game. Instead you'll find grumpy, afking high levels at the low level spots, insulting and being cruel to the people that haven't already gotten to max skills before. This won't keep people wanting to come back.

Which brings me to the next comment, I know very well the GOOD things that would come out of this. However, there are thousands of other updates that would work better to fix the economy and bring in new players without effecting the current player base. The bad (which effect everyone) outweigh the good, in my opinion.

And yeh i read the post m8s

17-Oct-2013 19:52:20

Nat

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FlyingFox said:
Hey everyone, I already made a post here, but i started to think about it, and wonder why I was so keen on saying NO to this update. And it's actually quite simple :
It's just not good enough.

Sure you could reset all level 99s and continue prestige, but it will cause more problems than do it good. It looks like a high level new option, but actually it will influence the newcomers to this game greatly.
What is currently not appealing to newcomers is how USELESS the items are that they create. You made it to making your own Amulet of Strength? Congratulations ! Go add it to the pile of 2498734287654 other amulets we don't use because HA HA we're higher level than you.

When I think of prestiging something, (and not completely undermine the fun of being a low level, instead of showing them they have to first suck it up, then get to the good stuff, and then realize they want to suck it up again twice as hard,) , I think of an extra way to give a challenge to higher levels.

So why not combine the two? Is it so hard to create a prestige system that would for example ask 5 strength amulets to create a new just improved version of it? (or trimmed for my part) This will make the demand for the amulets themselves and ACTUALLY MAKING THEM a LOT more rewarding, rather than adding to the infinite pile of redundancy.

And what if those improved amulets were to be only able to be made at the end of the line, at 99? They would attract new players by showing we actually need them to continue our journey, rather than keeping them at a distance. Or pretend we're one of them. Because we're not.

But guys don't forget that the reason we play this game in the first place is so we don't feel like a number in a highscore. It's because we feel we contribute to the whole. And that has been lost ever since grand exchange came out.


Completely agree with this post.

17-Oct-2013 19:55:53

Nat

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Mr RobinHood said:
I'd be interested to hear about the "thousands " of other updates that would fix the economy, bring in new players and do what this was trying to do, fix the problem with high scores, while still rewarding players for their increased work ina specific skill while not punishing them or giving them an advantage with their current xp? --- HMMMMMMMM


There's no problem with the high scores. Those who make it to the top first deserve to be there, even if they ground thousands of hours.

I'll make a reference to Ave Brassica's post. Actually no, just go read it. If the system was implemented THIS way, I'd love to vote yes. But as it is now, it's simply underwhelming, and mostly pointless.

17-Oct-2013 19:59:24

Nat

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I'm also becoming increasingly annoyed at those calling the ones that vote "no" stupid, or ignorant.

I read the blog as soon as they posted it, I've given it thought over the past few days. At first I wanted it SO badly to be implemented. But then I sat down and thought of all the positives and negatives. I voted no because the negatives - for me and my friends - outweighed the positive. I've posted why I voted no, I also supported posts that furthered my opinion.

For you to call me stupid for taking an educated vote - that's rude.

17-Oct-2013 20:05:48

Nat

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Apparently thousands do, as many thousands have voted yes. People like you are too selfish and voting no for absolutely poor reasons that hardly make sense. I highly doubt every high lvl is going to sit and insult new players, you have a horrible depressing outlook on life if you think that and I truly feel sorry for you.

And no, there aren't any other ideas that would bring back old content as easily as this would have. Especially none as optional as this one is.

I mean it's really hard not to see it as a bunch of whiners making up reasons to say no now. Maybe because saying the real reason they don't like it would make them sound selfish and possibly borderline OCD.

The more I hear people like this talk, the less I like this game as a whole. Maybe we should leave things as they are and let the game stagnate**** is mostly down to the hardcore rs ppl anyway. Most minigames and fun content is dead, just boring ppl grinding 200M's utilizing about 1% of the total game content lol.

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If you highly doubt that, you simply haven't spent enough time around high levels. Spend time in world 48. Spend time at high level bossing. Spend time on the High Level Forums. The high level community is depressing at best - they are rude and egotistical. An update like this wouldn't change them.

I assume by "real reason" you mean addiction to the game. I would say most of the players are addicted to some degree - I would even put myself in that category, save I don't have itches when I stop playing for months at a time. To mention OCD is mildly insulting, as I do stuffer from OCD outbursts due to my aspergers.

Lastly, the game has been dead for years. Jagex makes dead content by releasing things that don't need to be released. They don't update the older things to fit their new agenda. Games room has been dead since it was released - instead of fixing that, they introduced FunOrb. Then FO died. It's a cycle.

And no, I'm not addressing the updates. No room.

17-Oct-2013 20:15:11

Nat

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[quote id=294-295-289-65183445-534-328179614][quote id=294-295-289-65183445-523-328179500]I'm also becoming increasingly annoyed at those calling the ones that vote "no" stupid, or ignorant. I read the blog as soon as they posted it, I've given it thought over the past few days. At first I wanted it SO badly to be implemented. But then I sat down and thought of all the positives and negatives. I voted no because the negatives - for me and my friends - outweighed the positive. I've posted why I voted no, I also supported posts that furthered my opinion. For you to call me stupid for taking an educated vote - that's rude.[/quote] And where does all of the negative stem from exactly? Think about that for a moment and if it clicks you'll realize that calling no voters ignorant is very justified.[/quote It stems from the idea not being finished, polished, and from jagex not taking the communities ideas into consideration before putting out a vote. There have been a lot of player suggestions that would make this new system work, but instead jagex left it up to a poll. This won't make it better. And I don't much enjoy you attempting to insult my intelligence, miss.

17-Oct-2013 20:18:22

Nat

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Mr RobinHood said:
Nattie, no reason to get defensive you said the negatives heavily outweighed the positives, I'm sure if you explained to us what those are, people would be willing to respectively engage in conversation, no reason to get defensive

We're just curious what the bad is


High levels will either leave, or grind until they die - as I said before, unhealthy completion.

Low levels will quickly become bored with their rude, afking high level comrades - once again, something I already expanded on.

Those currently going for Max or Comp will become discouraged with the prospect of having to do it again.

More bots due to increased prices of goods 0 which would soon cause them to drop again - as we all know Jagex takes years getting to bot solutions.

More useless items that no one will use, causing items to drop in price farther.

More of doing the same thing players have done for years - without the fun.

More people getting banned because of botting these skills again (Wait nevermind thats a good thing)

I'd go on but I'd like to look at other posts.

17-Oct-2013 20:25:18

Nat

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Jimla said:
Mr RobinHood said:
Nattie, no reason to get defensive you said the negatives heavily outweighed the positives, I'm sure if you explained to us what those are, people would be willing to respectively engage in conversation, no reason to get defensive

We're just curious what the bad is


There is absolutely no use in trying to explain.

I've tried multiple times to politely explain in detail my position and why I personally voted 'NO' against this update. However, these posts usually enrage butthurt 'YES' voters who are unwilling/unable to try and see the issue from another perspective, and in a few cases they've even lashed out at me in personal attacks out of disagreement.

The funny part to me is that most of the 'YES' voters who are really upset over the poll results right now, are people who would hardly be affected by prestige in the first place. They call the other voters selfish, but perhaps these people need to actually consider that there are a group of players (granted, a minority) that would actually be significantly impacted by this update and would see thousands of hours of efforts down to the toilet unless they choose to compete all over again and earn their rank back from scratch.

In the end it is just plain immature to flame and get angry over the fact other people may have different opinions. If you've been following this debate from the start you would know that there are interesting arguments both for & against prestige, many of which are actually very good points. Everybody has the right to vote for what they feel is the right thing for the game, and if you don't agree with their vote then too bad.

Just remember this is not the end of the line here. Jagex WILL be revisiting this prestige idea in the very near future and taking our feedback into account. However, this time lets hope they do it in a way that is fair to everybody.

TYANDIMISSYOUXO<3

17-Oct-2013 20:26:34

Nat

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Meh. There's no point. You give them a valid reason, valid suggestions to fix it, to make the update more realistic and useful, and they still bash you.

I'm just going to assume you're all idiots, don't read what I've posted(and what other naysayers have posted), or are just trolls.

And for those that just don't understand the NO perspective, imagine playing for 10 years. Now imagine finally getting the a Completionist Cape. Then imagine planning on getting 200m's in the skills you love to train. Hold on a minute. Is that a div blog?

IS THAT DIV BLOG TELLING ME 200M'S WONT BE RELEVANT SOON?! OH BOY ITS MY TIME TO SHINE.

....Oh wait...I don't have 10 years to waste again :c.

17-Oct-2013 20:31:30

Nat

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Lotuspod said:
Nat said:
Mr RobinHood said:
Nattie, no reason to get defensive you said the negatives heavily outweighed the positives, I'm sure if you explained to us what those are, people would be willing to respectively engage in conversation, no reason to get defensive

We're just curious what the bad is


High levels will either leave, or grind until they die - as I said before, unhealthy completion.

Low levels will quickly become bored with their rude, afking high level comrades - once again, something I already expanded on.

Those currently going for Max or Comp will become discouraged with the prospect of having to do it again.

More bots due to increased prices of goods 0 which would soon cause them to drop again - as we all know Jagex takes years getting to bot solutions.

More useless items that no one will use, causing items to drop in price farther.

More of doing the same thing players have done for years - without the fun.

More people getting banned because of botting these skills again (Wait nevermind thats a good thing)

I'd go on but I'd like to look at other posts.


These are pretty much all unfounded opinions, and most have nothing to do with prestige. Come out and say the real reason already.

Or keep going....bc you're getting pretty funny. Would you like a tinfoil hat?


I've read what you've posted towards other people and have come to the con*usion that you're an idiot or a troll. And will be ignoring your posts furthermore. Tycomeagainxo

17-Oct-2013 20:32:30

Nat

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Dadizar said:
Nat said:
Meh. There's no point. You give them a valid reason, valid suggestions to fix it, to make the update more realistic and useful, and they still bash you.

I'm just going to assume you're all idiots, don't read what I've posted(and what other naysayers have posted), or are just trolls.

And for those that just don't understand the NO perspective, imagine playing for 10 years. Now imagine finally getting the a Completionist Cape. Then imagine planning on getting 200m's in the skills you love to train. Hold on a minute. Is that a div blog?

IS THAT DIV BLOG TELLING ME 200M'S WONT BE RELEVANT SOON?! OH BOY ITS MY TIME TO SHINE.

....Oh wait...I don't have 10 years to waste again :c.


^ +1 from a fellow aspy


There's too many of us on here xD

17-Oct-2013 20:35:40

Nat

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Mr RobinHood said:
Nattie, I like how you quoted my reasonable response, followed by somebody who asked for reasonable responses... I've been following this for awhile and missed you specify any negatives, so excuse me for being curious.

I'd like to consider myself pretty objective in most arguments, I don't try to have sides in advance. Admittedly, the only reasonable No argument I have seen is, is that it's kind of unfair for those with lots of XP past 99.

I have offered compromising ideas to that issue but beyond that I don't see any other legitimate concerns. That's why I have asked you NATTIE, what te heavy negatives were.... I'm trying to be objective... you don't mind writing a block of text to tell people to back off but not why it's bad...


You've missed me pointing out the flaws, I'm sorry if you're so dull that it doesn't penetrate your brain. You're simply attacking me at this point for the sake of doing so. I'll direct you to Brasscia's post a few pages back - as that would be my ideal template - if you missed that post. I'm not repeating myself again.

17-Oct-2013 20:39:34

Nat

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Rhuiviel said:
Nat said:
Meh. There's no point. You give them a valid reason, valid suggestions to fix it, to make the update more realistic and useful, and they still bash you.

I'm just going to assume you're all idiots, don't read what I've posted(and what other naysayers have posted), or are just trolls.

And for those that just don't understand the NO perspective, imagine playing for 10 years. Now imagine finally getting the a Completionist Cape. Then imagine planning on getting 200m's in the skills you love to train. Hold on a minute. Is that a div blog?

IS THAT DIV BLOG TELLING ME 200M'S WONT BE RELEVANT SOON?! OH BOY ITS MY TIME TO SHINE.

....Oh wait...I don't have 10 years to waste again :c.


I understand your point. I've been playin forever 10 years myself, though this account is newer (little over a year and a half). The thing is, with the way this incomplete update would supposedly be, you'll only be affected by it if you choose to be. Oh sure, other players might go beyond 200m exp in a skill. My question to you is this-how, exactly, does that belittle your accomplishment of reaching 200,000,000 exp in a skill?


It belittles it in the sense that I wanted to get 200m EXP on the current HS system, the way I'm currently training skills. That system would not be relevant anymore with the implication of Prestige, therefore my gains would be irrelevant. I've already stated this before >****;....

The HS system isn't broken. For some reason Jagex has a mentality that you have to fix what isn't broken.

17-Oct-2013 20:43:35

Nat

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Mr RobinHood said:
Speaking of attacking, I like your hostility, I see some of your skills may reach 30 mill XP, besides dungeoneering why are you concerned about any of your work being ruined?

But yes I'd be glad to read somebody elses post for the "heavy negatives"


Rude. Will be ignoring your troll self just aswell.

17-Oct-2013 20:44:19

Nat

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FlyingFox said:
Robin Hoo d , I posted on page 52 a short version of what the negatives are.

I'd love to also add that when this prestige thing goes in, a lot of open possibilities will simply be impossible anymore, because they have implemented this system. What they offer here is a (bad) alternative to race to 200 million experience, resulting in a lot more redundant items flowing into the game , while gobbling up all the resources with the wealth a big portion of us high level players have obtained.

With a reset a lot of skills will generate a lot more garbage, and newcomers will be rewarded by handing in their resources , rather than having the satisfaction of delivering products people actually will use.

If you'd continue in prestige to create new kinds of items that sinkholes others , like they intend to do with the new skill as well, like they did with summoning also, I see a brighter future than this silly alternative.

Again I prefer to see a positive community, rather than being in a list with people who achieved the same as you.


Thank you for re-stating.

17-Oct-2013 20:44:59

Nat

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FlyingFox said:
It's funny to see Im being ignored by people like red silk vow, who also looks for a nice way to make everyone happy, rather than hearing the extremes.


Meh, in the same hand he/she is correct. Div was a horrible release. JuJu's were screwed for no reason. And the last mention of Prestige is correct.

As I said, I'd support prestige if it was heavily reworked to be more realistic.

17-Oct-2013 20:51:30

Nat

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Tell me about your 10 yrs. I will raise you 4 more. Only I choose to level the skills that I like. I could have had 200m xp in wc and thieving many times over. After all, I know someone who managed to get to 200m thieving xp in 2 months, yes you heard that right, 2 months. The xp rates in the game today are so laughably high, you really think that getting half those skills to 200mxp takes that long? Getting 99 wc in rsc takes way longer.

Instead, I have made additional characters and chose to grind up from 1 to 99 instead, because it is much more difficult than hanging around doing pp or cutting crystal trees. In fact, I have 3 accounts that have 99s. There really is no point in getting 200m xp, although with prestige you will still get it anyways, because right now, you will just be another number that did it.

There is absolutely nothing in this game that is remotely difficult anymore. Apparently thousands of people would like the chance to relevel their skills again, it saves us having to make more additional accounts that we will play for a while, get to 99, then forget about. Many maxed characters, including Kingduffy, have expressed that they like this idea.

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Those gains are made through no-lifing and account sharing, something that is unrealistic to most players. Yes, I'll agree that there are insane experience rates that were unseen 5 years ago, but you're given the option to make a new account, as you've done, to gain those levels the way you wanted to. With prestige you'll just be doing it on your account, with the option to go back to 99 whenever you like.

I don't really care if accomplished players vote yay or nay, I vote the way I want to. I've expressed my opinion over various posts - I've highlighted other opinions that would make Prestige more realistic to current and new players. And my brain just went fuzzy, so I'll leave it at that.

17-Oct-2013 20:58:59

Nat

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M a y be said:
Its a game Nattie, what does it matter if someone gets 200mill xp in 2 months, do you not just enjoy playing? for fun?


uwotm8. I don't think you've read anything Ive said tbh. Not mentioned anything about 'fun' or 'gains in 2months'

If I didn't enjoy playing I'd go elsewhere. I play for friends mostly. But I know that this update simply isn't a good idea, not in its current form or anything near it.

17-Oct-2013 21:05:30

Nat

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Rhuiviel said:
Nat said:
Tell me about your 10 yrs. I will raise you 4 more. Only I choose to level the skills that I like. I could have had 200m xp in wc and thieving many times over. After all, I know someone who managed to get to 200m thieving xp in 2 months, yes you heard that right, 2 months. The xp rates in the game today are so laughably high, you really think that getting half those skills to 200mxp takes that long? Getting 99 wc in rsc takes way longer.

Instead, I have made additional characters and chose to grind up from 1 to 99 instead, because it is much more difficult than hanging around doing pp or cutting crystal trees. In fact, I have 3 accounts that have 99s. There really is no point in getting 200m xp, although with prestige you will still get it anyways, because right now, you will just be another number that did it.

There is absolutely nothing in this game that is remotely difficult anymore. Apparently thousands of people would like the chance to relevel their skills again, it saves us having to make more additional accounts that we will play for a while, get to 99, then forget about. Many maxed characters, including Kingduffy, have expressed that they like this idea.

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Those gains are made through no-lifing and account sharing, something that is unrealistic to most players.


Let me stop you there. Are you claiming to have been playing runescape for 14 years? Sorry to call your bluff, but runescape has yet to reach its 13th anniversary.

Secondly, you're generaliZing. Not all players with huge amounts of exp account share, as you claim.


Someone else said that, I had to copy the post because there wasn't enough room to type with the last quote.

17-Oct-2013 21:06:23

Nat

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Nat said:
Rhuiviel said:
Nat said:
Tell me about your 10 yrs. I will raise you 4 more. Only I choose to level the skills that I like. I could have had 200m xp in wc and thieving many times over. After all, I know someone who managed to get to 200m thieving xp in 2 months, yes you heard that right, 2 months. The xp rates in the game today are so laughably high, you really think that getting half those skills to 200mxp takes that long? Getting 99 wc in rsc takes way longer.

Instead, I have made additional characters and chose to grind up from 1 to 99 instead, because it is much more difficult than hanging around doing pp or cutting crystal trees. In fact, I have 3 accounts that have 99s. There really is no point in getting 200m xp, although with prestige you will still get it anyways, because right now, you will just be another number that did it.

There is absolutely nothing in this game that is remotely difficult anymore. Apparently thousands of people would like the chance to relevel their skills again, it saves us having to make more additional accounts that we will play for a while, get to 99, then forget about. Many maxed characters, including Kingduffy, have expressed that they like this idea.

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Those gains are made through no-lifing and account sharing, something that is unrealistic to most players.


Let me stop you there. Are you claiming to have been playing runescape for 14 years? Sorry to call your bluff, but runescape has yet to reach its 13th anniversary.

Secondly, you're generaliZing. Not all players with huge amounts of exp account share, as you claim.


Someone else said that, I had to copy the post because there wasn't enough room to type with the last quote.


I also forgot to mention - I didn't say all of those with high amounts of exp. I said those with rapid gains in short amounts of time. And I also said 'no-life'

17-Oct-2013 21:07:40

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White Jaguar said:
Rhuiviel said:
White Jaguar said:
No, the rsc beta started in 1999. Why do you think the beginning year for jagex's copyright is 1999?


I encourage you to do some research. Deviousmud was 1999 and was never released. Runescape, now called classic, was released to the public in 2001.


Officially released you mean. As a complete game w/ members. Its cute that you are trying to tell me that something that I personally lived is wrong lol. I can get an old of friend of mine, who also played back then, to come post about how wrong you are as well. But then, if you don't believe me about the copyright, which you need to have something released that someone can copy in the first place, I feel sad for you. After all, you probably weren't born yet at that point huh


For someone as old as you must be to have played the orginal Beta, you sure seem immature with that last comment.

17-Oct-2013 21:20:22

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Ferenc2017 said:
Nat said:
Lol self admittedly mentally unstable. Oman.......... I'm more stable than most humans m8. You lost me at that by the way. Cba reading the rest of your posts.


*runs virus scanner*

-virus detected unable to remove it-

Auw... :(


LOL.

17-Oct-2013 21:21:33

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In the case of more people using low-level armour and weps, most of the things that we level'd up with aren't useful anymore and won't be used. Things like brackish blades and chaotics and what not will probably be used more than whips etc.

Not to mention people are just gonna use spins to get to 80/90 to use the higher level stuff.

So many flaws :l...

17-Oct-2013 21:38:18

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Rex Caeli said:
Why i personally think prestige is a better system than level cap on 120:

1) lvl 120 = 104m total xp in that skill, while redoing the skill 1-99 'only' takes another 13m xp. I know that the first steps in a skill are slow xp, but in the end the 13m xp will still be faster than getting an additional 91m xp to reach level 120 in a skill. Not only that, 120 in a skill = reaching level 99 8 times. In my opinion, gaining a level about 800 times is way less boring than getting millions of xp to gain 'only' 21 more levels.

2) prestige makes dead content alive again, while level 120 cap does not. Remember the nexus? That place is almost completely empty nowadays. If you could redo prayer, lots of people would use the nexus to get their first levels in prayer quickly.

3) prestige works indefinitely, while in the current system a lot of people would suddenly 'jump' to 120 magically because they have 104m+ xp in their skills already. A large part of the high-leveled people would not be helped with a higher level cap that way. The game would still remain dull for them (if they even think it is dull) as they would have 120 just by logging in so to speak.

Those are the three main reasons why i voted yes. I repeat: i respect the people who voted 'no' and have a solid reasoning. But simply voting 'no' because you won't be using the prestige system, is selfish.


In the case of the Nexus - it was dead content to begin with for high levels, and it won't make a difference with prestige being released. High levels will just use Frosts on their already-made athome alters.

I would actually rather a 120-system because atleast then there's the option to introduce even more content into game, more options to level up as you expect exp rates to change.

17-Oct-2013 21:43:56

Nat

Nat

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Red Silk Vow said:
Nat said:
In the case of more people using low-level armour and weps, most of the things that we level'd up with aren't useful anymore and won't be used. Things like brackish blades and chaotics and what not will probably be used more than whips etc.

Not to mention people are just gonna use spins to get to 80/90 to use the higher level stuff.

So many flaws :l...


How is someone using lamps/pendants any different than people in the past who used horns and saws and whatnot, or marble altars and pack yacks to blast past those who buried individual bones for their 99s?

How is it any different from those, like say, myself, who actually train herblore and smithing and construction, instead of warbanding it up?

It isn't. Stop caring so much about what other people do and enjoy what YOU do.

Unless resources, or everything really, were made 100% untradeable, someone who gets a lucky drop is going to own you anyway. That was true in the days before the GE, it was even more true once it came out, and it will always be true.


People asked for negatives, I provide and then am told to stop caring about what others do.

watdo.

17-Oct-2013 21:47:44

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