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Good Nap
Dec Member 2005

Good Nap

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Good afternoon,
I am rewording the text of this thread to make it more clear in particular to people that states that I would like the game to be nerfed. Actually I never asked to make the game easier. Rather, I am just asking to allow player to play content without it being shielded behind a luck barrier.

So, there are different scores in game, starting from most xp, then going to trim cape, comp cape, max cape, mcq, and other scores for minigames, etc. Some achievements do not grant runescore because the component of luck related to them is high. It was Jagex decision to grant runescore only to those achievement with a light component derived by luck.

My point is that the developers of BGH didn't pay attention to the enormous component of luck needed in order to complete the "three in a bed" achievement, and the luck component is actually placed even before the content itself.
Jagex didn't reveal the chance of getting 3 dinos spawn, but from my experience it should be around 1/500 or so.
Therefore, either do not assign runescore to this content (as it happens for the other achievements with a luck component) or make the achievement do-able by allowing players to select the number of dinos spawn before every encounter.
At least, maybe set a threshold for 3 dino spawn (like a trhesold pet) or let us buy an item that will grant that spawn.
There could be tons of solutions. Of course, if people do not care about this niche content, usually just say no without understanding exactly the point of constructive criticism.

In no way I am asking the game to become easier. The achievement is difficult and it should stay difficult. I am just asking to have to chance to complete it, which seems to me pretty reasonable.

Best regards,
Nap

15-Jul-2019 17:01:52 - Last edited on 23-Jul-2019 15:25:44 by Good Nap

Mr Symax
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Seems like we should be able to buy with Marks. I agree. Also i almost did 2 but failed because of the stupid are you sure you want to fire less arrows. I know they fixed this I do not like the fix. I would rather the presure plate gave me option to fire one two or three. This way if i right click 3 and do not have it, the game would warn me I do not have that. Turning it off seems great till you fire 2 arrows and meant to fire 3. I also would love to see a video of someone doing it. Now that jadinko show up and change pattern im not sure it will be possible. Unless you get multiple trys. Seems a hard mode and a medium mode would give you a chance at 2 or 3. Mr. Simax
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15-Jul-2019 17:11:07 - Last edited on 15-Jul-2019 17:13:28 by Mr Symax

Good Nap
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The rarity of the 3 dinos encounter is really out of scale.
It's not making this kind of rng-based content that people will keep playing bgh. Rather, it will be dead content the second after ppl will get the achievement done, for several reasons.

Please fix this issue, there are several players asking for that, but complete silence from Jagex :(

18-Jul-2019 11:27:32 - Last edited on 18-Jul-2019 11:27:42 by Good Nap

Mr Rey Ray
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No support.

The rarity of the spawn should remain unchanged, you will just have to take your time with the 3 dinosaurs when you finally get the spawns.

We already have enough nerfs lately, we do not need anymore.

An achievement shouldn't be changed because a "player" cant get something.

Best of luck completing the achievement.
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18-Jul-2019 17:34:12

Nightwalker
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[ - ] No support on the nerf part. As an old player who is used to struggling a lot more to get things done, I'm strongly against making any sort of content easier. RS3 is already a damn joke compared to the old RS in terms of difficulty.

[ + ] Support on the non-RNG based thing. I'm strongly against ANYTHING being RNG-based. It devalues effort by all means. Like pet drops. One person getting them at 100k exp and the other at 200m. There should be THRESHOLDS, to increase the chance after x amount of failed attempts, to balance things out. Pure RNG = cancer to people getting unlucky & people trying to compete for scores and such. (Personally I am back to RS on a noob account so idc about scores, but if I did, I surely would not like them being RNG-based. It's ridiculous.)

18-Jul-2019 20:27:26

Good Nap
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Mr Ray Ray,
I think you are missing the point of my post.
Let me rephrase.
By definition, an achievement should be completed thanks to the skills of a player. And all achievements that are granting runescore have a very low threshold for luck. This is correct because players can show their skills by completing the achievement themselves.
Now, this achievement is pretty impossible even to start, given the rarity of three dinos spawn.
Therefore, it should not grant runescore.
The silence of Jagex on this point is very frustrating.
They did a mistake, just admit it and amend accordingly: that would be appreciated.
Best regards, Nap

18-Jul-2019 22:49:15 - Last edited on 18-Jul-2019 22:50:49 by Good Nap

SandyHorizon
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Mr Symax said:
Seems like we should be able to buy with Marks. I agree. Also i almost did 2 but failed because of the stupid are you sure you want to fire less arrows. I know they fixed this I do not like the fix. I would rather the presure plate gave me option to fire one two or three. This way if i right click 3 and do not have it, the game would warn me I do not have that. Turning it off seems great till you fire 2 arrows and meant to fire 3. I also would love to see a video of someone doing it. Now that jadinko show up and change pattern im not sure it will be possible. Unless you get multiple trys. Seems a hard mode and a medium mode would give you a chance at 2 or 3.


I don't know if that would make it better. I usually do a quick look/hover on my scorpions unless it's the 2nd part of placing the proper poison and I don't want to waste an arrow setting up all three or even 2 if it isn't necessary. When the message pops up I just quickly hit the spacebar and 1. I've had a few successful 2 dino encounters with no jadinkos, I actually prefer them over the 1 dino with jadinkos. I haven't had a successful 3 dino encounter yet, hopefully one day. I do like the idea of having a choice for various modes though.

18-Jul-2019 23:41:33

Shadow Wolfy
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I have only done big game hunter like couple dozen times and ive gotten 3 dinos like 5 times on the arcane apotera whatsits the ones that bait is shark the winged dinosaur? The Oldest and Wisest of Wolves.

19-Jul-2019 10:09:39

Mr Rey Ray
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@Good Nap

Let me rephrase. You have a history of complaining about achievements when unable to complete them. I remember back when I suggested 120 Slayer, for instance.
Regardless - as we all know, most of RS is already RNG-based. Has always been. And while I don't exactly like that it is that way, and believe that the entire game could use a remake - from tick system to square-walking - it's too late now for things to be changed. With that being said, I don't see why this specific thing shouldn't be based off a RNG when other, far more important things are. Lastly, I'm against game content becoming easier than it already is, and even more against content being changed after its release.
They should leave it as it is.
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20-Jul-2019 01:30:04

Good Nap
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@Mr Rey Ray
I never complained about something I wasn’t able to do.
I have always provided constructive criticism when content appeared illogical in the context of the entire game.
Please stop trolling forums
Thanks

22-Jul-2019 10:29:38 - Last edited on 22-Jul-2019 10:30:10 by Good Nap

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