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Ava Enithesi said:
Still, I don't understand why the negotiations should all take place offscreen and be dumped on us in this particular piece of content.


To reinforce that Zaros is the sneaky god that withholds information from us unless we need to know it.

Particularly if Saradomin makes it to the end first, Zaros makes it to the mid-point first, and you fully restored Seren and Zaros.

Here are the relevant bits of dialogue:

Sliske: Well well well. Zaros has taken the decisive lead in this race and claims the prize for being first through the door. Tell me Zaros, who should wander these cold corridors alone?
Zaros: Saradomin.
Sliske: Care to elaborate on why? It's an interesting choice, I would have sworn you'd pick Seren.
Zaros: It is the most logical decision.
Sliske: Will you explain this logic?
Zaros: No. There is no value in further discussion on this.

Saradomin: Was that supposed to do something?
Seren: I... I don't understand.
Zaros: Did you really think I could not see your subtle manipulations Seren? Did you think that you alone could re-weave the strands of fate that bind Saradomin and myself? I am restored to my full strength and my plans are not so easily undone. Saradomin, you will give the stone to me.
Saradomin: At least tell me that she is safe.
Zaros: Nex found her on one of the Obsidian Tribunal's tomb worlds, she is in my custody now.

Isn't it odd that Zaros would choose to eject Saradomin's entourage if he truly believed their bargain was secure? Surely it would be better to eject Seren's entourage since he knew that she was working against him? Or if he was concerned about Seren's safety, Vorago's 'entourage' since that wouldn't make any difference?

Instead, he chose Saradomin, which seems to indicate that he was fully aware of Seren's forces absconding with Adrasteia all along and was trying to avoid that coming to light.

04-Jan-2018 04:36:05

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Now for something RoP related:

As much as I'm interested to see further development between Seren and Armadyl over the Aviansie potentially moving to Tarddiad, I'm also fairly curious about what danger the bargain struck was struck with Zaros over. Especially since it is entirely possible for Zaros to still hold the pact and thus have Zaros and Seren be forced to work in fairly close quarters for the first time since Zaros left Freneskae (or potentially the hand off of the world gate if it really wasn't stolen).

It would present Armadyl with a decent opportunity to try and get two vehemently opposed gods (one of which Frankensteined Aviansie, which Armadyl is opposed to personally) to work together with him toward an objective.

Though perhaps most of this should be dealt with in a sequel to RoP, since RoP's supposed to be more about the Aviansie and less about the gods.

04-Jan-2018 04:52:47 - Last edited on 04-Jan-2018 04:53:25 by Hguoh

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To boss fight or not to boss fight?

If the options truly only affect the presentation of the narrative and not the narrative itself, I actually find myself favoring the boss fight slightly. It (and puzzles) would fall more into the ‘show’ camp of storytelling, while dialogue is more in the ‘tell’ camp.

Granted, dialogue allows us to be told of things that may be costly or otherwise difficult to show, and anytime you have characters interact some degree of telling is necessary. So it’s not like it has no place when it comes to being used.

Given our limited view of the quest’s outline, I can’t really say which option is better suited for portraying the narrative. I don’t know what the needs of quest are in regards to this or the difficulties entailed by pursuing either option. The only person we know who has the oversight on this is Mod Raven, so I’m inclined to default to his personal preference as to which option he thinks will do the best job in giving as the most lore and telling the best story.

11-Jan-2018 14:29:58

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No, quests don’t need a boss fight. If the boss fight tells the story better, use it. If dialogue and puzzles tell the story better, use them. Use the right tool for the right job, and you know the situation better than we do.

11-Jan-2018 16:53:32

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