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Saint Benjy
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Dilbert2001 said:

Exactly, MTX has nothing to do with Fossil Island and such, that's also my reply to Swift Punch's post.

Please read my post and Swift Punch's. He tried to deliver an off-topic MTX comment so I just replied directly to his claim that if he hated MTX that much, he should have no reason to see Zeah and Fossil Island and such since MTX will always be here.


I did read it, so please don't assume! And I don't think he was trying to say what you think he was trying to say... Let's just let it go.

Dilbert2001 said:
No. I don't think it is "inevitable" for RS3 to have Fossil Island or OSRS to have The Arc. It is just OP's own opinion. Anything can happen in alternative realities but more likely than not, they won't happen because of Butterfly Effect - a small and apparently meaningless change can totally mess up the future. We saw that in The Needle Skips when Megan did not burn Primrose's book the whole story changed. So even if RS3 made Fossil Island available, it most likely would not be the same Fossil Island in OSRS.

Regarding your second comment, you better realize players can't play both RS3 and OSRS at the same time under the same account. You probably should believe many players actually have not only just played both RS3 and OSRS, but also have extensive knowledge and experience on both games, just that they have to play both games under different accounts. ;)


Again, not sure what you're trying to say. I play both games on the same account, but until very recently I had zero knowledge or OSRS. People shouldn't have to play both games to get access to all of Gielinor's content.

Yes, while butterfly affect is a thing, time moves forwards (BOCTAOE). It doesn't make sense to leave out a bunch of history (or retcon everything) just because the story going forwards diverges.

07-Jan-2019 21:17:50 - Last edited on 07-Jan-2019 21:24:18 by Saint Benjy

Dilbert2001
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Saint Benjy,

Again, you are jumping in my response to another user's post, not yours. What you quoted me was my response to Ghosttalon's comment that he might have thought some people did not have knowledge on a game (e.g. OSRS) but made comments on it. I just told him he simply couldn't tell because players with the most knowledge on both RS3 and OSRS often have to play both games at the same times with different accounts. That's why often you don' t see their stats on both games. But knowledge doesn't lie. If somebody did not play a game, he simply can't describe the game features. ;)

History changes when somethings changes, even with a flap of a butterfly's wings. If everything should movesforwards as is, then OSRS should have Guthix's death and he 6th Age but no Fossil Island and Zeah. Why doesn't Guthix die in OSRS?

07-Jan-2019 21:47:02 - Last edited on 07-Jan-2019 21:49:13 by Dilbert2001

Saint Benjy
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Dilbert2001:

(I'm assuming that you aren't trying to troll or gaslight). I KNOW you were responding to another user's post. In telling you that you can play RS3 and OSRS on the same account,
I'm commenting on your reply!


And you seem to have missed my point, but I'll try to make it more clear
The
past
of RS3 and OSRS should be the same.
The
future
or RS3 should be different

Fossil Island, Zeah, The Arc, et cetera have existed in the past (canonically), so they should be in both games, although what happens there should be different. I'm not talking about when an update occurs, but the actual in game storyline of the runescape world!

OSRS and RS3 diverge in year 169 of the 5th age...

07-Jan-2019 22:13:11

Dilbert2001
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Saint Benjy said:
Dilbert2001:

(I'm assuming that you aren't trying to troll or gaslight). I KNOW you were responding to another user's post. In telling you that you can play RS3 and OSRS on the same account,
I'm commenting on your reply!


And you seem to have missed my point, but I'll try to make it more clear
The
past
of RS3 and OSRS should be the same.
The
future
or RS3 should be different

Fossil Island, Zeah, The Arc, et cetera have existed in the past (canonically), so they should be in both games, although what happens there should be different. I'm not talking about when an update occurs, but the actual in game storyline of the runescape world!

OSRS and RS3 diverge in year 169 of the 5th age...


We can play RS3 and OSRS on the same account
but not at the same time
. That's why most players active on both games make different accounts.

NPCs behave differently in different alternate realities. The stories change accordingly too. You can see the big differences between New Varrock and the current Varrock. Likewise, no RS3 NPC is interested in seafaring in the Fossil Island or Zeah regions therefore they don't see Fossil Island and Zeah. Remember, the Varrock Musesum in RS3 ended up getting interested in the Arc, they spend their efforts there. They don't care about Fossil Island anymore. Jagex put up a poll on Fossil Island vs The Arc. Fossil Island lost and was replaced by the Arc. The Arc is the new Fossil island. :D

07-Jan-2019 22:59:12 - Last edited on 07-Jan-2019 23:15:35 by Dilbert2001

Saint Benjy
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Dilbert2001 said:

We can play RS3 and OSRS on the same account
but not at the same time
. That's why most players active on both games make different accounts.

NPCs behave differently in different alternate realities. The stories change accordingly too. You can see the big differences between New Varrock and the current Varrock. Likewise, no RS3 NPC is interested in seafaring in the Fossil Island or Zeah regions therefore they don't see Fossil Island and Zeah. Remember, the Varrock Musesum in RS3 ended up getting interested in the Arc, they spend their efforts there. They don't care about Fossil Island anymore. Jagex put up a poll on Fossil Island vs The Arc. Fossil Island lost and was replaced by the Arc. The Arc is the new Fossil island. :D

Who on Earth plays RS3 and OSRS simultaneously?! It seems like it would be extremely difficult to do anything other than the most tedious of tasks. The productivity gained seems like it would be minimal at best, even with something like runespan and OSRS woodcutting.

Yes, different characters behave differently in different timelines. However, most of history happened
before the timelines diverged in 5.169
. Zeah existed before year 5.169, so it technically
exists
in the RS3 universe, whether we can access it or not. Likewise, the Arc technically exists in OSRS, even if it cannot be accessed. It's a different timeline
in the same universe.


And the arc and fossil island are fundamentally different. You can try to equate them, but one shouldn't replace the other. The content shouldn't be anything alike.

08-Jan-2019 04:16:54 - Last edited on 08-Jan-2019 04:18:55 by Saint Benjy

Dilbert2001
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"Who on Earth plays RS3 and OSRS simultaneously?! It seems like it would be extremely difficult to do anything other than the most tedious of tasks."


I certainly do. I don't do aimless grindy things like running around back and forth to mine and bank ores in OSRS but I can leisurely do OSRS quests while I thief, mind/smith, play harp, pick mushrooms in The Arc etc in RS3. No sweats. :)

"Likewise, the Arc technically exists in OSRS, even if it cannot be accessed."


There you go. Likewise, Fossil Island technically exists in RS3, even if it cannot be accessed. But so what? Fossil Island can remain unaccessible forever as long as it remains useless in RS3.

18-Jan-2019 15:57:00

Lego Miester

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Saint Benjy said:
Does anyone know the timeframe for releasing Fossil Island (and possibly Zeah) in RS3? Can we expect them by 2020? By 2025?

I feel that these should be at least a medium priority to synchronize content across both games. The implementation of these should be fairly straightforwards, since OSRS can be used as a prototype.

These areas probably shouldn't be as content-packed as Priffindas (which in my opinion was overdone) or even Menaphos, and wouldn't even need to match their OSRS versions upon release. I would just be nice to explore all of Gielinor in one game.

EDIT:

Ultimately, I believe that adding Zeah is inevitable. With mainland content being packed denser and denser, the only alternative is scaling up the entire content (which would be good, but Jagex has stated that they don't want to go there)


If not Zeah, than certainly a new landmass. People trying to dismiss the land as "useless", pfah! Have you seen how cramped our game has gotten? Sure Zeah was empty at first, but now it's where they put most of the new stuff that would otherwise clutter the game and it's quite bustling.
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29-Jan-2019 00:11:27

Saint Benjy
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Dilbert2001 said:

"Likewise, the Arc technically exists in OSRS, even if it cannot be accessed."


There you go. Likewise, Fossil Island technically exists in RS3, even if it cannot be accessed. But so what? Fossil Island can remain unaccessible forever as long as it remains useless in RS3.


Its only useless until it can be accessed. Why don't people get it: making something accessible is the first step to making something useful!

29-Jan-2019 01:16:21

Dilbert2001
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Saint Benjy said:
Dilbert2001 said:

"Likewise, the Arc technically exists in OSRS, even if it cannot be accessed."


There you go. Likewise, Fossil Island technically exists in RS3, even if it cannot be accessed. But so what? Fossil Island can remain unaccessible forever as long as it remains useless in RS3.


Its only useless until it can be accessed. Why don't people get it: making something accessible is the first step to making something useful!


Here be Peguins is made accessible through the Fairy Ring, we should all know how "useful" it is. :D:D:D

29-Jan-2019 16:25:46

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