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cooke fletch said:
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How did they guarantee it? with their word only. They refused to do the one thing that would guarantee it: limit it to only pvp areas. Their refusal proved that their word was useless. How many times has one of the mods given his word and then gone back on it the second the polls closed? Dozens.

How could we trust their "word"? We could not. We needed something more, a block on the item being used in a way that would crash the prices of the armor gained outside the wild.


They limited it to PvP areas. You clearly didn't read the dev blog. Not anyone else's fault but yours.
No, the development blog did not say that. The CLOSEST they came to saying that was on the announcement which stated "we would like to limit it to pvp". That was it. "We would
LIKE
to". Not that we will. They had stated that they could not because pkers did not want it. So obviously they care more for what pkers WANTED, than what the majority NEEDED.

The fault was clearly the fact that no one could trust the jmods by that time and so far no one has regained it.


That implies that they'd do that. Your paranoia and spite does not constitute a need for Jagex to clarify what they meant. Besides, several people who supported revs including myself trust the JGods. Sounds like a personal problem.
If slayer is a skill, then I guess these slayer drop tables catered to skillers by pumping out so many resources. :)

08-Oct-2019 00:37:13

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I would just like to see slayer in the wilderness be somewhat similar to slayer outside the wilderness. I don’t see how this has much to do with pvp and skilling and spite voting, but actually pvm. I’m just stating that there are basically no slayer monsters in the wild, all other slayer masters give you slayer monster as tasks.

08-Oct-2019 01:32:28

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I would just like to see slayer in the wilderness be somewhat similar to slayer outside the wilderness. I don’t see how this has much to do with pvp and skilling and spite voting, but actually pvm. I’m just stating that there are basically no slayer monsters in the wild, all other slayer masters give you slayer monster as tasks.


The slayer master in the wild is balanced with what it offers and the additional points you get for using that slayer master. Choosing that slayer master, with the knowledge that it offers the tasks it offers, you know you get more slayer points.

I see no reason to put more critters in the wild, just because peeps get bored with the tasks that slayer master offers. You can choose a different slayer master to change things up a bit but being a wildy slayer master it should not be sending you on tasks that are not in the wildy.

No support.
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08-Oct-2019 02:02:56

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weston btw said:
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The only reason there is a wilderness slayer is there a small fraction of people that like to pvm in the wild. There is enough for them. Increasing the number of mobs in the wild will not increase that number by one player.


The incentives aren't great enough. Spiteful skillers don't get to decide what's enough for PKers and PvMers who enjoy risk.
Nor do spiteful pkers and pvmers on their own. If the incentives aren't enough, don't do them.
Stop being a entitled snowflake. If you want something in game, earn it rather than demand it be given to you.

08-Oct-2019 02:18:27

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irl pker dib said:
That implies that they'd do that. Your paranoia and spite does not constitute a need for Jagex to clarify what they meant. Besides, several people who supported revs including myself trust the JGods. Sounds like a personal problem.
Implying does not mean they will do so. Trust has to be earned and they have killed that trust. That is enough to vote to protect your bank account over the desires of others for a bigger bank.

That's what it came down to. Would we vote to keep our banks or would we vote to destroy our banks to make the banks of people that looked down on us and insulted us bigger. You tell me who would vote to improve the banks of people that are constantly insulting them at the expense of our own.

jmods proved they could not be trusted to do what was right for non pkers so we said no. They proved we could not trust them with their response.
Stop being a entitled snowflake. If you want something in game, earn it rather than demand it be given to you.

08-Oct-2019 02:22:43

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Angel2D4 said:
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I would just like to see slayer in the wilderness be somewhat similar to slayer outside the wilderness. I don’t see how this has much to do with pvp and skilling and spite voting, but actually pvm. I’m just stating that there are basically no slayer monsters in the wild, all other slayer masters give you slayer monster as tasks.


The slayer master in the wild is balanced with what it offers and the additional points you get for using that slayer master. Choosing that slayer master, with the knowledge that it offers the tasks it offers, you know you get more slayer points.

I see no reason to put more critters in the wild, just because peeps get bored with the tasks that slayer master offers. You can choose a different slayer master to change things up a bit but being a wildy slayer master it should not be sending you on tasks that are not in the wildy.

No support.


I didn’t suggest that the wilderness slayer master offer tasks outside of the wilderness, just that some actual slayer monsters were added in the wilderness. I don’t really think the additional points is really much to offer. I’m confused on the point your trying to make with the wilderness slayer master being balanced with what it has to offer, I’m looking at what it offers compared to other slayer masters. The points you use to buy slayer rewards which are pretty much non-existent in the wilderness.

08-Oct-2019 04:39:58

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When the slayer master was discussed a lot of people wanted it limited. THAT was the compromise that allowed it to pass the poll.

OF course with any compromise made with pkers, its never good enough and they demand total win. Its part of the mindset of pkers, they have to always win everything and others have to completely lose, no compromise allowed.

That's why jagex has started ignoring the polls and doing what pkers want no matter what harm it does to non pkers.
Stop being a entitled snowflake. If you want something in game, earn it rather than demand it be given to you.

08-Oct-2019 05:37:44 - Last edited on 08-Oct-2019 05:39:44 by cooke fletch

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cooke fletch said:
When the slayer master was discussed a lot of people wanted it limited. THAT was the compromise that allowed it to pass the poll.

OF course with any compromise made with pkers, its never good enough and they demand total win. Its part of the mindset of pkers, they have to always win everything and others have to completely lose, no compromise allowed.

That's why jagex has started ignoring the polls and doing what pkers want no matter what harm it does to non pkers.


A compromise is where both sides are happy. What you suggested was not a compromise but rather an attempt to spite and harass non-PKers. That's why this and any update to benefit PvP will not be classified as an integrity fix.
If slayer is a skill, then I guess these slayer drop tables catered to skillers by pumping out so many resources. :)

08-Oct-2019 05:53:25

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cooke fletch said:
When the slayer master was discussed a lot of people wanted it limited. THAT was the compromise that allowed it to pass the poll.

OF course with any compromise made with pkers, its never good enough and they demand total win. Its part of the mindset of pkers, they have to always win everything and others have to completely lose, no compromise allowed.

That's why jagex has started ignoring the polls and doing what pkers want no matter what harm it does to non pkers.


I feel like if it was passed then it wasn’t a compromise. I’m not a pker, so your statement there is pointless. I enjoy doing wilderness slayer where you kill monsters I’m the wilderness, considered pvm. With the release of the bosses, lava dragons, ents, mammoths, gwd, revenant caves, I fail to see just how limited people wanted the wilderness to be. It still doesn’t change the fact that the rewards from wilderness slayer are now basically gone. Slayer enchantment 1k, emblem 70k, key 100k average. How would adding some actual slayer monsters in the wilderness change the game at all as they already exist in game.

08-Oct-2019 07:26:35

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irl pker dib said:
A compromise is where both sides are happy. What you suggested was not a compromise but rather an attempt to spite and harass non-PKers. That's why this and any update to benefit PvP will not be classified as an integrity fix.
A compromise is where both sides get SOMETHING. It does not mean both sides will be happy, or even one of them will. The truth is, in a compromise, most of the time no one is happy, but they accept it as a necessity to give up something to get what they want. Pkers are not willing to give up anything.

What you want is to totally spite everyone that isn't a pker by giving pkers EVERYTHING they want. IF pkers get everything no one else gets anything. Does that sound like its intended to make anyone but pkers happy?
Stop being a entitled snowflake. If you want something in game, earn it rather than demand it be given to you.

08-Oct-2019 14:04:08

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