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Blackwing said:
No support, part of the reason why people acquire pets is because others can see them, so it'd be unfair for them to not be able show them to everyone around them. If you don't like company like that, you can hop worlds and/or switch locations (where applicable).

Additionally, it'd clutter the options interface even further (K.I.S.S.) and add extra work to QA to ensure that the game works with both it toggled on and off.


Agreed.

No support from me as well.
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Blackwing said:
No support, part of the reason why people acquire pets is because others can see them, so it'd be unfair for them to not be able show them to everyone around them. If you don't like company like that, you can hop worlds and/or switch locations (where applicable).

Additionally, it'd clutter the options interface even further (K.I.S.S.) and add extra work to QA to ensure that the game works with both it toggled on and off.


This^.
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Dr Goldfire said:
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If you bought your pet for me, I'd like the option to say I don't want it. Thanks but you wasted your money if you only bought a drake to show me.

Why aren't you satisfied with the people who won't hide them? Why must you force everybody?


This ^


Just because one person is ok with this isnt enough for this to happen.

TBH, it doesnt matter how many want this as it'll only end badly for jagex.
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Vexcel said:
I really dislike the drakes too and people typically only buy those and display them to be annoying such as at portable skilling spots or other crowded locations.

People paid money or purchased bonds to get those so Jagex can't really just make them invisible. I wish they could but just won't happen.

Just do what I do, zoom in as much as possible so you get them out of your way. Let the people who want to be a pain in the butt do their thing.


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Blackwing said:
The fact that there are people whose pet purchase decision was influenced by the knowledge of everyone seeing the pet, with no toggle to hide it, is alone reason enough to not do a toggle, because there isn't any mandatory reason to make it. Somebody not liking the sight of the pet isn't a mandatory reason, or else people would request all kinds of silly toggles under the sole reason that they don't like something.

Then there's the technical side: the more toggles you add, the messier the interface becomes to use, and the more complicated it is to fix certain bugs, because some bugs might only surface when you have certain toggles set up on a specific way. If you compare RS3 and OSRS interfaces, RS3 has a lot of clutter that isn't really needed, and sadly OSRS has begun adding some too thanks to mobile. Consider the future, since everything adds up.


Agreed.

Dont believe most of the ppl wanting this are looking at the bigger picture.
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Whatusaytome said:
Should you expect a refund? No, you saw an advertisement and got sucked in, and you feel entitled to more than you paid for. And you just can't accept that other people don't appreciate what you did with that decision you made.


Just because you dont like something isnt a reason for a disable feature.
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Whatusaytome said:
Regardless of a person's reason for not wanting to look at your pet, be it an obnoxious eyesore, or lag causing, or just a preference. This toggle, and any like it, literally does no harm to anyone.

It doesn't stop anybody from getting the pet. It doesn't mean nobody will ever see your pet. And it's not a toggle that would stop them from seeing anything that matters, like a summoning familiar.


Considering some ppl will have this on, if they stream or w/e with it on, no one would know they exist.

Thus jagex would get less sales and would be overall pointless.
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Whatusaytome said:
if somebody is streaming their gameplay, I'm assuming they are invested in runescape enough to probably have their own. Which would never be hidden by the toggle.


How does this make any sense?

How does them streaming rs mean they have to have a drake?:@

Whatusaytome said:
Besides, if the streamers would even use this option, doesn't that speak for itself as well?


Uhh no.

It only shows that they appear to be one of those ppl who dont like pets for w/e reason.
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Dr Goldfire said:
I am particularly against drakes, which are the most visually messy. I do not mind other pets, as I mostly use one as well, but I bet that a seahorse does not bother anyone compared to oversized drakes.


Get enough of them in one area and we'll talk.
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Whatusaytome said:
Dr Goldfire said:
I am particularly against drakes, which are the most visually messy. I do not mind other pets, as I mostly use one as well, but I bet that a seahorse does not bother anyone compared to oversized drakes.
this is why my original support was for different toggles for different types of pets. So we don't have to see a Legendary like the drake, if we didn't want to, but can still see companion or follower or even boss pets if we did want to.


No support.

I can only support a toggle for all or none.

Theres some large companion pets that ppl dont complain about which i find ironic.
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Blackwing said:
They might not complain about them now, but if a toggle like this was made, they might afterwards, since people always find something to complain about. The difference in each case is whether something should be done about it or not, and since the drakes and other pets can easily be ignored, either by clicking through them or switching world/location if you really don't want to see them, there's no need to make a bigger mess of the game's settings by adding another unnecessary toggle.


100% agreed.

Well said my friend.
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Whatusaytome said:
Can you kindly explain why we are forced to move out of what we are doing when a simpler option that doesn't affect you and doesn't force anybody to do anything would be better?


How is this simpler than hopping worlds?

Having to go in settings and turn this on/off all the time would be more of a hassle IMO.
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Whatusaytome said:
Runescape is a game people play for years, even decades. If the settings for customizable gameplay was too small, it would be far worse than if there were settings available.

If you can only complain that the settings seem cluttered, and not that the suggestion is bad, then suggest a fix for the clutter. Don't shut down the suggestion.


Or we can just skip the middleman and not do this at all.

I mean theres some things ppl need to finally learn to deal with as jagex cant make you like everything.
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Whatusaytome said:
It's not a simpler option to hop world's until you find one that's pet free.


How isnt it?

It usually only take like 5min at most to do this vs the amount of time going around in the setting finding 1 toggle.

I mean just getting out of the legacy interface was a pain with the amount of toggles now.
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Blackwing said:
Quite frankly, Whatusaytome, given that you've been a part of this discussion for such a long time now, you should already know the reasons why some don't support the toggle, at least if you've read the posts by the people not supporting the toggle. Just because you don't like the reasons, doesn't mean they don't exist.

Nobody is forced to move out from anything because of some people's pets; they can be clicked through, you can zoom out your camera if you feel like you're too close that the screen is too filled up, and if you're lagging, you'd be lagging anyway, pets or no pets, because it's the players simply being there that really causes lag (and servers being unable to handle too many players causes its own lag).

And like was told before, if you start adding more and more toggles, slowly but surely the UI is gonna become more and more cluttered with unnecessary options, which both damages the UX when the users are searching for the options they actually want by making it more time-consuming, as well as making it increasingly harder to reproduce and fix certain bugs that are related only to certain setting combinations, because there'll be more combinations to go through.


Exactly.
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Whatusaytome said:
If you can't learn where a toggle is, that's your own inability. And I encourage you to suggest a way to simplify finding them if you honestly struggle. Perhaps suggest better locations or labels for them. Like I said, I personally think the more options for personalization the better.


Wow, so its my fault that jagex chose to make the setting interface the way it is?

Last i checked players didnt have any control over how it wouldve ended up.
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Dr Goldfire said:
Actually I don't think that dev time needed for such a simple thing would ruin Jagex's budget.


The same thing could be said about loads of things, yet you dont see jagex doing those.

Take Bank Bidders for example.

So thats a flawed statement.
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3 def is LIT said:
I support, sick of game crashing or screen being overwhelmed with flying pets.


Then zoom out or go someplace else.

If you choose to stay in an area that has them knowing that these things happen, thats on you.
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UrekMazino said:
Thinking that he has anything to back his opinions, hahaha.


Like how you cant respond w/o trolling ;)

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Runecoins only account for >3% of the total revenue, and how much of those runecoins is spent buying legendary pets? Even if they stopped selling legendary pets altogether, they'd barely see a dent in their profits. Plus, now that legendary pets' scavenge ability is more useful, more people who are actually using the pet for its intended purpose instead of trolling will buy it. How many players actually bought the pet to show off/block view of others? Jagex won't notice if this type of customer stopped buying the legendary pet.


Even so, just because they might not appear to make much from MTX if the constant updates of them is anything to go by, it appears they do.

So just because they might not, doesnt mean this should happen.
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UrekMazino said:
You > dozens who are supporting this thread.

How does the universe contain your ego.

Plus you won't know if someone else can't see your pet, it can't possible ruin your enjoyment in any way at all.


What if they happen to be streaming and they have this on?

Also, why must the universe cater to you ppl that for some reason choose to get angry at these and go to areas where ppl with them out frequent?
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Dr Goldfire said:
Yet it is not just about portables. Even if it would be there is still the thing why should the vast majority suffer because of few individuals.


Because you let yourself suffer.

Theres only so much jagex can do before you need to start taking responsibility for your actions.
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Meda said:

It's not my choice whether or not people have an obnoxiously sized pet out.
I support the per-client toggle of hiding other players' everything; not just drakes.
Titles, pets, particles on outfits. I want to be able to stand out for my self, without having to needlessly clog up others' screen space.


Yet its your choice going to places that are known to have them frequent.
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Dr Goldfire said:
Draco Burnz said:

Yet its your choice going to places that are known to have them frequent.

Soon, there will be a choice whether we want to see cosmetic pets or not.


Source?

If this was the case, reddit would be lit up like a Christmas tree discussing it.

I have yet to see any such discussions so.
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Ahura said:
There's always going to be pets that due to their movements and/or size cause distraction or make your gameplay a little more difficult to do, but should we have a toggle for everything? The issue of drakes actually causing problems for you and not just being annoying in your eyes because you simply don't like the sight of flying drakes, is rare, in those very few cases we can simply hop.


Exactly.

All of this is just a bunch of hogwash.
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Dr Goldfire said:

I'm not saying, neither requesting a toggle for everything individually, but who ever needs to see class of legendary cosmetic pets. Those could be completely filtered out with no negative consequences at all.


No ones forcing you to see them besides yourself you know?
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Whatusaytome said:


Best solution is hide pets of players you ignore, or make seeing them in general a toggle. Neither takes away from the user who owns the pet. They wont even know.


Just like with what they did for achievement banners?

Yes im sure ppl would know ppl don't see them as theres still be others complaining about it and thered be those saying they don't see it for x reason.

So logic is flawed.
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Whatusaytome said:


People complain about the pets and/or what the pet does to them. Can you explain why everybody around you must, at all times, see your pet? If it was a familiar from summoning, that's understandable, but these are pets. They aren't ever dangerous or necessary for us other people.


That's the thing, you don't have to.

Its that you choose to be in the same area as me so you force it on yourself.
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Whatusaytome said:


The reason we blame you is because you lot are the ones who choose to go to these "cluttered areas" even though they will cause lag.

So I don't see how its anyone elses fault but your as you choose to have "lag" entirely on your own accord.
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Krathamanzor said:
Essentially, I bought it, I have a lawful right to use it, I'm going to use it. You have no lawful recourse because me using it is implied in purchase and I have the right to use it, and as but a fellow player I cannot be held liable for another players machine being too weak to handle me using my lawful purchase.

Is it the most friendly response? No. But it's a lawful, strictly inoffensive, and logical response. And it's what I tell everyone when they tell try to order me to put away my drake. I'd posit it's not an unfriendly one either - I hold no-one any ill-will at all. I simply do as I wish without breaking the rules and expect that to be respected, just as I respect others for doing the same.

I'm simply not breaking any rules, and won't be apologetic about using something I have every right to so use. Any time I choose, any place I choose. End of story.

A VERY strong No support.


Couldn't agree more.

If ppl want to complain about something ppl have every right to use, let them.

As using pets doesn't break any rules like said, it proves even more that more than likely nothing will happen.
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Whatusaytome said:


Yes but after those changes hopefully jagex have learned that not everything should be that way just because a small handful choose to complain about something.

I mean ive been complaining about seeing other ppl on my screen for a while now, wheres my toggle?
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Ms Cole said:


Yet you said this is somehow one of the reason ppl don't want world reduction despite the fact it doesn't matter how many worlds there are pets will still be a "problem" in a select fews POV.

Also, why, in your opinion, should we get a toggle?

Ive stated my reasons throughout this thread why we shouldn't so we should we?
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Solivagus said:
support. these pets are obnoxious and obtrusive. why were they made in such a way as to be as annoying as possible?


Yet not everyone thinks this way, only a small minority of ppl.

So since ppl choose to get annoyed by them and could just as easily ask the owner to maybe put them in one of their smaller forms, this seems to be a personal problem.
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Solivagus said:
go take your giant drake to vorago, AoD, raids, a popular max guild or the world 2 GE and see how small that minority really is.


You do know the whole player base don't hang out at those areas right?

So in the grand scheme of things, that's still a small percentage.
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Blackwing said:

Well, once again goes to show that Jagex never learns how to truly get rid of the trolls. They're still gonna find more ways to troll people, and the innocents are still gonna pay for it. :P



Pretty much :/

So what this'll boil down to is pretty much making the whole game SP.
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Jeremy Cheng said:
Glad to see all portable trolling has been fixed!


Yet it isn't.

Even though Jagex "fixed" fires and pets, ppl will just use something else like achievement banners, clan vexs etc to do the trolling instead.

So its nowhere near being "fixed".
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Solivagus said:

either way, I'm fine with pretty much any change regarding troll reduction at the combat academy.


How is being unable to skill there a good thing?

So are you so sure you are fine with anything happening there as with that in mind, that gives jagex the ability to pretty much make the CA a place where you cant do anything besides use the bank.
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Solivagus said:



do you include removing all skilling as being troll reduction? are skillers trolls to you?


You said it not me:

Solivagus said:

either way, I'm fine with pretty much any change regarding troll reduction at the combat academy.


So since you said you'd be ok with them doing anything to remove trolls, you seems fine with this too.
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scousy said:
The trolls should be banned instead. Everyone will just do divine locations. Divine locations should be removed from treasure hunter, and kept to divination only. or better yet remove treasure hunter.


No support.

TH isn't going anywhere as jagex make too much extra money off it.

Also trolls shouldn't be banned as they aren't breaking any rules.
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UrekMazino said:


Forever until the game shuts down. You do know that if only one or a handful of person complains, nothing will happen right?


Yet knowing the community, if someone does something bad enough it'll gain loads of traction and ppl will just ask for it to be "toggleable".

Case in point this thread.
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Jodeceii said:
Big support, they're often just irritating..I use my skilling pets if i'm going to have any pets/familiar overrides..drake is just irritating for myself let alone anyone else


So just because something is annoying it should be toggled off?

Once again, where my toggle for ppl as they are annoying to me /s
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Dr Goldfire said:

Thanks. True, neither I don't mind normal pets or familiars. I usually have a seahorse following me. I just can't stand those oversized helicopters (drakes) for already given reasons.


What reasons, would you plz say it again for the 1000th time? /s
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Whatusaytome said:


Question: Why do you feel bad about me wanting the ability to not see a pet, but you don't feel bad about making me lag?


Due to the point "laaging" is more so than not a personal issue.

So if you go to an area that's known to have loads of pets out and you do lag, you chose to go there so that's on you.
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Whatusaytome said:


Not really:

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Due to the point "laaging" is more so than not a personal issue.

So if you go to an area that's known to have loads of pets out and you do lag, you chose to go there so that's on you.


So even with this "toggle", youd still lag from other things.

TFW this is the only things that causes lag.
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Whatusaytome said:
You most definitely can still use any of your pets there. It just won't interfere with other people.


Either you don't play the game or don't understand whats being discussed now as theres currently a "feature" that hides all pets so no I cant use pets at CA.

Might be best to do some research before posting.
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Whatusaytome said:
I'm not sure why that happened. I'm gonna go by Urek's photo where it shows it works, maybe yours was under one of the ports or something?


Idk, on day 1 of the change it was like I explained.

Now you ppl are showing something different.

Who knows.
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UrekMazino said:


TFW I never said you were "faking" anything.

Just that for some reason you are showing something different.

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Idk, on day 1 of the change it was like I explained.

Now you ppl are showing something different.

Who knows.


Reading does help.

The only time I mentioned the world "fake" is when 0ma Kokichi told me to get a screenshot.

I mean br0, you quoted both of the posts yet didnt actually bother reading what they were responses to???

That's sad.
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UrekMazino said:
No it can't, players don't take up 4 tiles of space and don't have very annoying idle animations that causes major lags on pc.


Uhh, players do cause laag tyvm.

Just go to the portables world.
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Whatusaytome said:
Asking isnt a fix. Asking is the only option we have, and I'd bet that it almost never gets anywhere. Hence the complaints.

Why not let players actually decide on their own? Afraid too many people will use it?


Why should a random person be able to control my pets?

Im sure thats counts as trolling" as what you're complaining about does.
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UrekMazino said:
If that worked, then complaint threads like this won't exist. Why would a troll want to use the baby form when his whole reason for summoning the pet is to block other players' screen?


Come on now, this is the rs community we're talking about.

I mean even though theres options for things ingame as is ppl still complain about them.

So points invalid.
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UrekMazino said:
Immortalized said:
they made it the biggest pet in game for a reason. just like how the achievement banner speaks in public chat

You'd get better mileage with mammoth familiar than drakes if size is the main concern.


Yet mammoths are smallers than drakes if not the same size.
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UrekMazino said:
Yes, but you get janky movements and on uneven terrain, the whole mammoth will tilt to one side. Thanks to its height, it blocks off a lot of a player's view. So mammoths > drakes


Im still in the belief that drakes are bigger.

I mean at least mammoths don't have any moving anims like drakes.
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UrekMazino said:
You haven't seen mammoths trot around? It's like they're spazzing around. Drakes may be 3x3 tile but mammoths are way taller. Plus, they're cheaper, a drake costs like 6 bonds?


Seems like you didn't read what I said like usual:


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I mean at least mammoths don't have any moving anims like drakes.
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Xavathos said:


That's pure semantics, Urek. Graphical settings are a totally different thing to cosmetics and pets that you have acquired or paid for to show off. Again, I'm playing devil's advocate here, because I don't actually use my pets to show off as stated and you would never need to "censor" my drake, but there are a lot of players in RuneScape who care about that.

Also, I am well aware that the suggested change would not be visible to the pet owner. I make my point despite being aware of that fact. I think I've explained why clearly enough. You're free to disagree of course, but you have failed to convince me on this.

Players should always be free to express themselves, even if you're disgusted by it. You can always, you know, politely ask them to put the drake away.

But I've seen how it goes at dxp weekends, places like Lumby chest, those players get profanity thrown in their direction the moment they set foot there. How would you feel?


Couldn't agree more.

Well said.
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I ate all said:
As a Drake owner I support this.


When I have my Drake out I set its appearance to "child" in the pet menu, shrinking it to the size of a Chicken so it doesn't interfere with others and I don't accidently click it, but I can still use its adult abilities.

I cant tell other big pet owners to do the same though.


Why cant you?

Whats stopping you from doing so?
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Mr Gatsby said:
Alright, personally I enjoy seeing drakes during events, which is why I got one myself. No support for toggling them off.


Agreed.

I can understand how they might be annoying but just because they are isn't a reason for them to be toggleable.

Theres loads of things that are "annoying" yet they don't get toggles.
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Xavathos said:

That's a bit hypocritical to say when in your view, your "smoother gameplay for anybody in need of it" is paid for by those who do not and the tax collector is the player that chooses to collect it.

I'd be absolutely dumbstruck if Jagex would ever agree to this. By all means, keep soldiering on, but if you'd have spent as much time working as you have spent trying to convince me of abandoning my point, you'd be able to solve your lag problem by now yourself, without ripping off other players.


Exactly.

Love how they think money just grows on trees when its infact only because of ppl who do use MTX.
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Whatusaytome said:
I won't stop defending the topic. I haven't heard one GOOD reason for it not to be implemented, only that you blame players for not having the capability to play smoothly after Jagex added unnecessary content. If you won't agree to it then you can agree to disagree, give a solid No Support answer, and I'll stay for the occasional new people like Gatsby.


TFW you have yet you just choose to ignore them.

Ppl have been saying time and time again why this is a bad idea yet you do the same thing you're blaming you know who for.
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Xavathos said:
And here comes more accusations, now we're victim blaming, we're shallow, we're this, we're that. My view is worth as much as yours and I'd appreciate it if you had the common decency to address me as an equal.

You guys can keep riding in bicycle in circles all you want, but I've had it with your attitude. I can't have a half decent discussion with your logical fallacies and personal jabs on every corner. If you address people in-game the way you do here, it's no wonder they don't put their drakes away for you!

Tap me on the shoulder when you feel ready to engage in a real talk and I'll be more than happy to participate, alright?

No support.


Couldn't agree more

At the end of the day, its either their way or the highway.

So anyone who disagrees with them are worse than scum.
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Xavathos said:


Well, maybe it's not his choice to use a bad system, maybe he has no choice, I don't know. It's his choice to have others pay for his frame rate though, that I'm talking about. He's reaching out into the world and changing it, affecting other players, to better it for himself and himself alone, when the issue he has in this case is a consequence of a fact he knew ahead of time. I just don't agree with the way of thinking.

All this could so easily be fixed by just asking someone to put their pet away. No discrimination between certain pets required.


Nah it can just as easily be fixed by getting an actual computer.

Why should ppl be limited on what pets they can/cant use just because you cbb to upgrade?
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Whatusaytome said:


Well I mean java is going out the window soon so of course ppl are going to need a semi decent rig to play the game.

Its only normal progression.

This is like asking Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo to tone down the graphics of a games just because you cbb to get the better console.
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Whatusaytome said:


You guys are entitled. That's it.


Coming from the lot whos demanding others to play how they do.

Yes we're the entitled ones...

Xavathos said:


Uh, yes? Progress is made in technology and things change faster than ever these days. You either go along with it, or get stuck in the past with a potato, having horrible experience all around. Jagex has to go along too or suffer the same fate.

Gaming isn't cheap at the high-end. Why would we who invest in our gaming rigs, pay for you who doesn't want to do the same? You think I'm rich? I work very hard for what I make and live a very modest life. I really only spend on gaming, because I like it. If you like it as much as I do, why don't you?


Exactly.

So if you cbb to get a better rig, jagex shouldn't have to deal with your problems.
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Whatusaytome said:
You expect and demand that unwanted content be forced on every surrounding player. And you cant stand the thought of having that any other way.

You dont support giving people any choice in what they want. Because you are entitled.


Just like you don't support giving ppl choices.

You want to limit what ppl can/cant do so I don't get where you think you're in the right?
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Whatusaytome said:


This has nothing to do with their computers, this isn't about runescape as a whole being demanding. Its specifically about pets playing a factor in people's negative gameplay experience, and it's just you being entitled because you think runescape is that demanding. And you think everybody should be like you, instead of giving people a damn choice about a stupid pet.


The fact you think this is really laughable.

You say it ruins your game experience because they make you lag.

So if you just got a better computer you could deal with them better and this wouldn't need to happen.

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You dont care about anybody but yourself.


Once again funny coming from you.

You only care about your fps and want to rob others of their rights.

So how do you care about others?
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Whatusaytome said:
You are unaffected whether I see your drake or not. And with this, nobody has to ask you to put it away ever again.

It's that simple. Stop acting like you are affected, stop acting like this takes anything away from you. You can't ever tell the difference in your own gameplay. Ever.


Whats really so bad about asking ppl to do something?

I mean aren't ppl also complaining about how anti-social the game has become?

This just makes it even worse.
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Whatusaytome said:


You need to realize how small this update actually is. I make a big deal out of how big of a deal you guys are making out of forcing us to see your paid content saying live with it or quit the game. So in all you are entitled. Because you are trying to compare a big guy in a tiny car, to updating pets in a game. Improving the frame rate for thousands of players as they wish.

You refuse it because you overexaggerate the outcome to sound like it harms people. When it doesnt.


How doesn't it harm anyone?

Its been explained time and time again that its robbing ppl of what they paid for just because you have personal issues.
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Whatusaytome said:
How does the combat academy update harm anybody then?


For the same reasons this suggestion does.

So ill ask again:

Draco Burnz said:


How doesn't it harm anyone?

Its been explained time and time again that its robbing ppl of what they paid for just because you have personal issues.
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Whatusaytome said:
Whatusaytome said:
I'd recommend reading through this.

https://www.reddit.com/r/runescape/comments/bjwr1y/coming_this_monday_from_the_ninjas_hiding_other/

And here are the patch notes.

http://services.runescape.com/m=forum/forums.ws?442,443,19,66098528


How about you actually read these this time.


I have.

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Trolls.


Yes we're the trolls just because we have a different opinion than you.
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Xavathos said:
Implying a fallacy? How does one even do that, I wonder? Last I checked, a logical fallacy was a fact, hence the name logical fallacy.

Anyway, I hope the mods will deal with you soon, because your personal attacks are becoming rather tiresome. We're trying to respectfully (though I admit, after so many pages, rather vigorously) explain our position and mindset to you and you're not only constantly ignoring it, you're also attacking us, instead of our argument.

Notice how I've been disagreeing with you for several pages now without resorting to calling you names? You know why that is? Because I don't need to, mate. My argument speaks for itself. You, on the other hand, don't even take the time to understand it, only to dismiss it and attack me personally.

The only potential fallacy on my side, is the faith I've put in you thus far. And I hope you'll prove me wrong on that one.


Couldn't agree more.

Well said.
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Nightfox said:


The annoyance from repetitive undulation isn't the only bothersome element. What also sucks is that it obstructs the view of my character when the player with it on display is standing in the right position. Why am I forced to leave an area, or hop worlds, because someone pulls a pet out that blocks my character?


You aren't forced to do anything, its just that if you choose to complain you have to deal with the consequences.

Ppl should know by now how big the drakes are so if ppl choose to have the out, and they have every right to, then you should know to just deal with it or do one one of the things you suggested.
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SandyHorizon said:

All of that said, I do not support. There really is too much clutter with the interface and so many things to toggle already. Honestly, pet drakes are not everywhere like they used to be when they first came out, now I only see them in masses when it's a double xp weekend or something. I rarely see them outside of that and, when I do, it's usually just one and I don't find it annoying or impossible to see my character. If it's on me, I just adjust my camera angle. If they're troubling you that much, maybe try a lower populated world or going somewhere else in the same world where the drake(s) isn't.


Exactly.

So the ppl wanting this are the ones who seemingly only play during said times or choose to be in the more populated areas where these are.
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